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40 Clove Chicken

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    Posted: 30 April 2012 at 03:17
As with anyone who has a busy lifestyle I have turned into a big fan of the slow cooker over the years, and 
use them a lot for pork and beef dishes. I have always been disappointed in the results when I cook chicken in it because of the effect the moisture and low heat have on the skin. 
"Mushy" skin is about the biggest turn off I can think of with poultry.

In an effort to see if something could be done about this I decided to do a bit of an experiment yesterday.

I started with two Vidalia onions, sliced and put in the bottom of the crockery.


Then in a large mixing bowl I added 2 tsp kosher salt, 1.5 tsp freshly ground black pepper and 1 Tbsp pimenton'.


I added enough olive oil (about 2 Tbsp) to turn the spices into a loose paste, and then tosse3d the chicken drumsticks in it...along with 40 whole cloves of peeled garlic.


I then laid the chicken inside the pot on top of the onions and added some freshly sliced Crimini mushrooms.


Put the lid on and started the cooker knowing I would return in 8 hours...when I did return this is what I found.


Now remember...I added no moisture other than the olive oil what you see here has all rendered out of the onions, garlic, mushrooms and chicken.

I served it up with mashed potatoes and spooned that lovely garlic mixture right over them.


I would not call the skin crispy, but it certainly was not mushy so I am considering the experiment a success. The wife unit suggested I cut back on the garlic a bit next time, so in defference to her I may do that...perhaps 30 cloves rather than 40.

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You probably know there's a typical french recipe for chicken with 40 cloves of garlic? The chicken and garlic are however roasted in the oven.

But I believe the main subject in your thread is chicken skin getting crispy. I do agree that mushy chickenskin in a dish is totally disgusting. In my coq au vin I will always remove the skin before cooking it; even when frying the meat with skin on, before adding the liquid, it will mostly turn out mushy.

However, nowadays those skilled modern cooks use their "Roner", as you know a hot waterbath to cook meat etc. at low temperature for many hours. They put smaller cuts in a plastic bag with a little butter, vacumize the bag. Afterward, many times they crisp the meat shortly in a hot pan. I watched one of our own 3 michelin star cooks prepare a bird in a Roner too, after having removed the skin. That skin was first blanched in boiling water for a minute to remove most of the fat, then it was spread open on a rack to dry and crisp up in the oven. He took 50/50 crispy skin and crisply baked puff pastry and chopped all of it in a crumble to serve with the bird. After all, a crisp skin still remains the most wanted and best part of a roasted chicken... but indeed the very worst part when stewed into mush!

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Good Morning Hoser,
 
Your chicken looks quite wonderful Hoser.
 
I am not a fan of  Non.Crispy chicken skin, however, I also do boneless and skinless during the week. I have always been very regimented and though I am slim, I do exercise as sitting in front of the Computer too much,  is not healthy. I have my weekly gym routine.
 
There are quite a few Catalan and Spanish Chefs who crisp the skin apart from the poultry flesh ...  
 
Interesting concept.
 
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Thank you for the comments folks...it seems that absolutely everyone abhors mushy chicken skin.
Chris I have used the sous vide method  myself with boneless breast of chicken. Sealed it with nothing but a little salt and pepper and a pat of butter and it was the most succulent chicken breast I have ever made.

The problem with the slow cooker and no fluid (small problem) was just that the mushrooms got a bit dark. If I had been there to stir it once half way through the cooking time I think they would have fared better.

Margi...if you get a chance to try the sous vide method you will fall in love with it, and if you're avoiding the skin to begin with, you might just want to give it a try...it can be done without special equipment...just a vacuum sealer and a good thermometer will get you through a trial run.
Here is how to do it with just a beer cooler and a thermopen.
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There are, as well, at least two sous vide units designed for home use. They're on the pricy side, to be sure. But for anyone doing a lot of sour vide they might be worthwhile.
 
Unfortunately, I no longer have the contacts. But I'm sure a search would uncover them.
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Originally posted by ChrisBelgium ChrisBelgium wrote:

You probably know there's a typical french recipe for chicken with 40 cloves of garlic?

Yes, a favourite of mine!
 
 
Excellent stuff, indeed!
 
Dave, your rendition here looks to have a Basque influence - is that what you intended? It sure looks good, regardless of the skin texture!
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Originally posted by TasunkaWitko TasunkaWitko wrote:

Dave, your rendition here looks to have a Basque influence - is that what you intended? It sure looks good, regardless of the skin texture!

I wasn't actually looking for any particular regional influence Ron...just happened to have those ingredients on hand, and thought the pimenton would be a nice combination. I will do something similar in the future for sure, but will adjust the ingredients to fit the moment.
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