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gonefishin
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Topic: Homemade Mozzarella -Cow Milk - FIORE DI LATTEPosted: 31 December 2012 at 10:28 |
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Homemade Mozzarella
I bought some Kalona Milk from the store in order to make Creole Cram Cheese (for a Creole Cream Cheese Cake). But upon taking a taste of the milk in a glass, I knew I had to make homemade Mozzarella...or homemade butter. This milk was that good, with a lovely plug of heavy crem at the top of the jug...but it was better than that...the milk was really very very very good! Some things I found out, when I was making creole cream cheese, was that you can't use just any milk. Even some of the milks that are thought of as premium will not work well for certain cheeses. Here is a "good milk list" that was real helpful, it's broken into categories showing a list for each state. I was fortunate to find the Kalona milk, it's low heat pasteurized (145f)/non-homogenized and comes from grass-fed cows.
![]() ![]() I ran into some troubles with my rennet as well. The only stuff I can find in the stores was Junket Rennet, which I found out is made for custard...not cheese. I had a batch of creole cream cheese that didn't curd at all. Since, I learned that Junket was about 20% strength of useful, cheese, rennet. I ended up using a whole tablet, instead of the 1/4 tablet the recipe called for. Besides being low strength it has a few other problems. I will need to order some better rennet online. Oh, besides having to use a higher dose, I also had to increase the sitting time by quite a bit. This page has a lot of good information on Rennet.
![]() ![]() ![]() The end result was incredibly tasty. It did turn out like a low moisture mozzarella cheese, one that is used for shredding. This isn't a bad thing, but I was aiming for the fresh, high-moisture mozzarella cheese. During the kneading process you can have a lot of moisture lost, so I was careful not to push it too much. The stretching was actually kinda fun...stretch stretch stretch then reheat...stretch stretch stretch and repeat. I will have to do a bit more reading and see what the differences are between the low moisture and high moisture mozzarella cheese.
Another good source for information is this link: "FAQ - Cheesemaking and Milk"
I still have to get back and make some creole cream cheese too. Ohhhh, that homemade creole cream cheese cake is soooo good. Nice and fresh...yum! Have a great day all!
Dan
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Posted: 31 December 2012 at 18:50 |
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very, very nice, dan! that bottom photo is something i could really get into!
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Posted: 04 January 2013 at 01:08 |
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I love Mozzarella cheese especially on my margarita pizza. Thought I love cheese but as I have become a lot obese so I have been getting towards the healthy diet and yoga so that I can get to loose my weight and get back healthy.
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Posted: 04 January 2013 at 07:30 |
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Good Morning Dan, Firstly, thanks so much for your pictorial, explanations, trials & errors, corrective methods etcetra. Truly, have enjoyed your feature.
We learn from practicing and rehearsing !
Some ideas:
a) the braiding process and very important:
b) the non reactive pot ???
c) the thermometer 88 degrees Farenheit and then 105 degrees Farenheit ???
Hope this helps.
Kind regards, and Happy New Year, HOPE THIS ASSISTS:
Margi.
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Posted: 04 January 2013 at 08:53 |
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dan - love the cheese, and also appreciate the link to riki's site ~ next time you make it, i'd be interested in any tweaks you made in order to get it closer to what you're looking for ~
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Posted: 04 January 2013 at 09:04 |
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In the US, we have different kinds of mozzarella.
1. Mozzarella (cow's milk) 2. Buffalo Mozzarella (buffalo milk) 3. Smoked Mozzarella (cows or buffalo that smoke tobacco--okay, just kidding) 4. and 5. High moisture Mozzarella and Low moisture Mozzarella (<50% and >52%) Organic milk is a reference to the kind of feed and treatment/medications the animal has had. 1. Organic milk--unpasteurized 2. Organic Milk - pasteurized 2. Organic Milk- ultra-pasteurized These are different than Non-organic milk, referred to as Milk. 1. Milk-unpasteurized 2. Milk - pasteurized 3. Milk- ultra pasteurized |
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Posted: 04 January 2013 at 09:32 |
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I've been lucky enough, living close to Chicago, to be able to have fresh Mozzarella di Bufala. It is a wonderful product...clean, light...effortless (if that makes any sense). Texture, taste, color is certainly different from cows milk product. But, to take this a little further...Take two cows fed very different diets, producing very different tasting milk...I don't believe you would say the taste, texture color from two differing cows milk cheeses were the same. When I taste a fresh cheese I do think there are similarities. In each example you have a clean, fresh, light flavor that offers more similarities to the milk which it came from. Fresh ricotta, mozzarella, fiore di latte, cream cheese...these all have that familiar taste that is specific to that particular animals milk. Organic milk is milk from cows that have been exclusively fed organic feed, have not been given synthetic hormones, are not given other medications to treat sickness.
From here, the producer can use a variety of pasteurization processes. Organic milk doesn't have to use High Temp Pasteurization methods, and they don't have to use Low Temp methods either. The milk I picked did happen to be organic, this was not the reason I picked it for making cheese. The reason I picked, Kalona Milk, was because it was Low Temp Pasteurized @145f, uses grass fed cows, non-homogenize. I've had fresh cows milk before, it is good. But using responsible methods (non-homogenized and low heat pasteurization) with quality cows (grass fed) gave me a better tasting product than farm fresh cow's milk I've had. Again, there is no doubt in my mind this is due to the feed. But, had Kalona not treated the (grass fed) milk in a respectable manner...it wouldn't have been the same product. Again, to me, fresh cheese is about tasting the milk in varying forms and textures. Much like a good butter, it's all about the milk. But the milk is all about the feed, you just need to use a process that isn't too obtrusive.
Are you saying the stretching process is important, or the braiding? Yes, I use non-reactive cookware.
I used 89f and 105f Not sure if this helps to clear anything up...but I tried to answer everything. Have fun all! Dan |
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Posted: 04 January 2013 at 09:45 |
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Dan,
Firstly, once again; you have done a fab job, and as a matter of fact I was quite amazed by your undertaking, as FIORE DI LATTE is not a simple task by no means.
If you go to www.ehow.com and look up COW MOZZARELLA and then, look up MOZZARELLA DI BUFALA, one can see the process is quite a bit different.
I am also quite aware that Mozzarella di Bufala and Fiore di Latte are exported to NYC, CHICAGO, SAN FRANCISCO, WASH D.C. amongst other large Italian American populated metropolis style cities.
I see that you have used the proper temperatures and non acidic metal equipment ... MOZZARELLA DI BUFALA is stretched and then, braided ---
However, you had mentioned it was drier than you hoped for. This was why I had asked you if you had the correct temperatures and non acidic non reactive metal equipment.
I think you have done a lovely job; and the next time you prepare; you might try employing Regular Milk. This is clearly stated on www.ehow.com in English.
To reply to your statement on texture, taste: I have had exported into Manhattan Mozzarella di Bufala; and it does taste different, than Campania raised water buffalo mozzarella; simply because of the marshes in which they are raised; and the animal, the natural diet of the water buffalos ( marsh vegetation fed ) ...
BIG QUESTION: in Italia, the cows are grass fed ... on the lands in which they are raised, as in Spain or France etcetra ...
THUS, organic is always a USA business and one pays more for the milk ! ?
If you would like to make Mozzarella di Bufala, google: www.bufaladivermont.com
They raise water buffalo on farms in Vermont in marshy wetlands; and they sell wholesale and retail. Margaux.
Kindest regards,
Margi.
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Posted: 04 January 2013 at 09:59 |
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Welcome to the forum Rosaliejenkins! Great to have you here ![]() I agree, cheese is amazing! I also hear you about trying to keep the calories down. I had a similar problem when I was practicing making homemade breads. I coupled making homemade bread twice a week with trying out all kinds of different butters. It was wonderful, but I soon noticed I was tipping the scale Time to start cooking more fish ![]() This project wasn't difficult at all. It was more about not being familiar performing the steps. After I had found a good quality Low Temperature Pasteurized Milk (145f)/Non-Homogenized milk I was set with the milk. My problem then became overcoming the use of a (Junkett) Custard Rennet, instead of Rennet used for cheese making. While I did overcome this problem by using a larger quantity and increasing the sitting time, this problem is easily overcome by ordering the correct Rennet. again...welcome! Dan |
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