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    Posted: 18 September 2012 at 16:46
Yep...that's right...taters.

That's what happens to you when you get a severe craving for chicken pot pie and are too lazy to make pie crust. That's what happened to me a couple of weeks ago, and this is the result.After looking through the freezer for pastry dough I struck out again, so here's what I came up with.

Took a couple of nice russet taters and rubbed them with really good oil and sprinkled them with sea salt, then popped them into a 450° oven for an hour.


While that was going on I poached the chicken breasts in broth and white wine, let it cool and pulled it into good sized chunks, then made a standard bechamel with poaching liquid and milk, and added the typical pot pie ingredients.


The taters browned up nicely and were very fluffy inside...pulled them out, split them and poured the pot pie mixture over....served with cranberry sauce.

This was a very tasty alternative to a classic belly warming meal, and we both enjoyed it very much.

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too lazy to make pie crust

I like your tater innovation, but you've got to be really lazy not to make pie crust if you've got a food processor.  I just don't get the appeal of frozen pie crust, since it literally takes about a minute to measure flour, salt, and optional sugar into your food processor bowl, add cubed butter, and pulse it all together while adding a little water.  Dump it onto plastic wrap, gather it into a ball, flatten it into a disk, stick it in the fridge, and wait at least an hour.

If you really have to have rolled out pie crust in less than an hour and five minutes (how long does that frozen stuff take to thaw, by the way?), okay; else, what's the point of frozen?
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A really nice variation on the theme, Dave. And perfect for one of those I don't want to fuss nights.
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i like the idea and the improvisation. i'm thinking of something similar on a baked potato for the beautiful mrs. tas, but on a bed of mashed potatoes for me!
 
or perhaps baked for a while with a mashed-potato topping -
 
daikon - one of these days i'm going to have to bite the bullet and just start playing with pastry dough. the only time i have really done it was when i engaged in my butte pasty project, and since the goal there is for a heavier, thicker, not-so-perfect crust, it was easy for a novice like me. as usual, you make it sound pretty easy - so i should indeed give it a go ~
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Making pie dough in a food processor really is easy.  It's simply the perfect machine for the job, which is why Julia Child used to say that if a food processor could do nothing else but pie dough, she'd still have one just for that.  The rest is easy once you learn that even though the dough seems too dry, crumbly, and underworked when it goes into the refrigerator, the moisture will redistribute and turn your "mistake" into smooth dough if you are just patient.
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Damn, that looks right up my alley!!! 
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Originally posted by Daikon Daikon wrote:

too lazy to make pie crust

I like your tater innovation, but you've got to be really lazy not to make pie crust if you've got a food processor.  I just don't get the appeal of frozen pie crust, since it literally takes about a minute to measure flour, salt, and optional sugar into your food processor bowl, add cubed butter, and pulse it all together while adding a little water.  Dump it onto plastic wrap, gather it into a ball, flatten it into a disk, stick it in the fridge, and wait at least an hour.

If you really have to have rolled out pie crust in less than an hour and five minutes (how long does that frozen stuff take to thaw, by the way?), okay; else, what's the point of frozen?


Last time I made pie with a frozen pre-made crust it took about 2 minutes to thaw out to the point it was workable. Just sayin'.
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i hear ya, mike - and in many ways agree. but daikon's point resonates with me, a little.
 
just making something yourself, even something as "simple" and "basic" as the crust, attaches a certain satisfaction to the end product. i choose convenience all the time, and the results usually taste just fine - delicious in many cases - but to me something's just a little better if i make it myself, if for no other reason than because i had to try just a little harder to get to the finish line.
 
my problem is always taking those lofty goals and actually DOING them, though. but then again, look at the result here ~ an entirely new and delicious-looking dish ~ so score one for innovation!  Clap
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Hoser,
 
I would call it BAKED POTATO  OR BAKED JACK SURPRISE ...
 
Hoser, you are Cool ...
 
I love baked Jacks filled with stuffings A to Z ... They are alot of fun filled with a wide variety of ethnic fillings from Mexican, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Tex Mex, New Englander etc.
 
Thanks for posting and I shall try it for a weekday office lunch ! Perfect and no complications ... keep u posted,
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Originally posted by pitrow pitrow wrote:

Originally posted by Daikon Daikon wrote:

too lazy to make pie crust

I like your tater innovation, but you've got to be really lazy not to make pie crust if you've got a food processor.  I just don't get the appeal of frozen pie crust, since it literally takes about a minute to measure flour, salt, and optional sugar into your food processor bowl, add cubed butter, and pulse it all together while adding a little water.  Dump it onto plastic wrap, gather it into a ball, flatten it into a disk, stick it in the fridge, and wait at least an hour.

If you really have to have rolled out pie crust in less than an hour and five minutes (how long does that frozen stuff take to thaw, by the way?), okay; else, what's the point of frozen?


Last time I made pie with a frozen pre-made crust it took about 2 minutes to thaw out to the point it was workable. Just sayin'.
What?  Thawing in the microwave?  I would suspect that could easily lead to problems, since letting pie dough get too warm is trouble, and microwave heat is uneven.

Regardless, my point remains that many people are just unreasonably afraid of pie dough or have unreasonable expectations of how much time it takes to make.  It really is the case that, with just a little bit of practice and except for the resting time in the fridge, making pie dough from scratch takes about the same amount of time as using frozen.
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no, on the counter. It's pretty thin stuff and doesn't take much to thaw out to the point that you can work with it.

For me, you're right, though I wouldn't say fear, I would say it's probably an unreasonable expectation of the amount of time. I recall watching my grandma make pie dough from scratch, and it was a pain. Mixing, kneading, rolling, shaping, re-rolling, etc.  Even though I hate using frozen pie crusts, for me it's so much easier to buy one at the store and throw it in the freezer and then take it out and use it when I need it rather than making sure I have all the ingredients, mixing, etc.  Call me lazy if you will, but between work and kid's school and homework and football practice and youth group and "oh btw I need this for school tomorrow" at 8 pm, and every other thing, making pie crust from scratch is pretty far down the list.

Anyway, Daikon, do you have a good recipe for pie dough in the food processor? I doubt I'll be making any any time soon, but I'll file away the recipe to have on hand just in case. Smile
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Better yet Daikon...why not make some and post a pictorial for all of us to see?
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You can find this same recipe lots of places online, with slight variations in pictures, tips, etc.

enough for a double-crust 10" pie

2-1/2 cups AP flour
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon sugar (optional if you are making a savory pie; you can use a little more if you want a sweet crust)
2 sticks (1 cup) very cold butter cut into cubes

All of that into your food processor with the normal blade.  Pulse until the mixture is mostly like coarse meal, but with some pea-sized chunks of butter left.  Don't go too far at this stage since you're going to do some more pulsing as you add the water.

1/4 cup ice-cold water

Add it in about 4 dribbles, pulsing for a couple of seconds between each dribble.  Stop when the dough is wet enough to hold together when squeezed.  It'll still look crumbly, but that is the way it is supposed to be.  If a squeeze won't keep a handful together, keep adding cold water a tablespoon at a time until it does hold after a squeeze.  Pulse with each addition of water, but don't overdo it.  You want something that looks crumbly and like coarse sand, with identifiable flecks of butter, not a smooth dough.

Divide in half onto two sheets of plastic wrap.  Gather them up into snug, plastic-wrapped balls, then flatten them into thick discs (gives you a head start on rolling them out when the dough is cold and stiff.)  Stick 'em in the fridge for at least an hour.  When you take them out, you'll be amazed that that little bit of water has manage to completely wet out the flour so that you now have a workable dough -- not that you want to work it!  Go easy on it to keep it tender (but you can beat on it with your rolling pin if it is really stiff just out of the fridge.) Keep it cool as you roll it out on a lightly-floured surface -- you don't want the butter to start melting before it goes in the oven.  A little bit of cracking is fine -- you can patch with extra pieces of dough either as you are rolling it out, or even after you've got it in the pie pan.

The rest is just like using frozen.

Here's how crumbly it can look before going in the fridge:

 
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hey, daikon - looks good - and easy ~ 2 STICKS of butter? half of me says WOW!Tongue  the other half says OH NOOOO!Shocked
 
thanks for posting - I'll keep it in mind the next time I am making pasties and see how it works. if you don't mind, I'll also copy it over to the baking section, so that folks looking for something like this can benefit from it.
 
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Returning to the original topic.
 
Made this for tonights dinner. All I can say, Dave, is good job, well done! Sounded good in theory, tasted better in reality.
 
A couple of things I did differently. Because of our schedule, I poached the chicken and baked the spuds last night. Gently reheated them while prepping everything else. Result: A quick, filling, delicious meal.
 
One addition: I topped them with a sprinkle of bacon, just for some added kick. But, frankly, could have just as easily done without.
 
Thanks for the idea.
 
 
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So how do you get chicken and baked taters to keep well overnight?  They always seem to develop an off taste when I try to make them a day ahead.
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Originally posted by HistoricFoodie HistoricFoodie wrote:

Returning to the original topic.
 
Made this for tonights dinner. All I can say, Dave, is good job, well done! Sounded good in theory, tasted better in reality.
 
A couple of things I did differently. Because of our schedule, I poached the chicken and baked the spuds last night. Gently reheated them while prepping everything else. Result: A quick, filling, delicious meal.
 
One addition: I topped them with a sprinkle of bacon, just for some added kick. But, frankly, could have just as easily done without.
 
Thanks for the idea.
 
 
Glad you enjoyed it Brook....lots of different combinations possible there too.
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