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TasunkaWitko
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Topic: Pennsylvania Dutch Chicken PotpiePosted: 23 January 2011 at 12:20 |
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From Time/Life's Foods of the World - The Eastern Heartland - 1971:
When Dave posted his family's ham and bean potpie, I immediately fell in love with it as I recognized simple, farmer's fare that could very well have been served by my own hard-working Lutheran ancestors in rural North Dakota, which was heavily settled by German and Scandinavian Protestants. The monikor "Pennsylvania Dutch," may be confusing to some, but Time/Life explains:
The incredible work ethic and simplicty of the Pennsylvania Dutch are directly reflected in their food, which is simple without pretense, yet simply good, nourishing and bountiful; solid food for hard-working people. This approach to life and to food brings back every good memory from my rural background and speaks to the incredible labour and love for the land that brought "the Heartland" into prosperity, whether in rural Pennsylvania or rural North Dakota. Such attitudes toward land and life built rock-hard values in the generations who live there. As Time/Life says, "These are people who love to eat, in their own expressive phrase, feinschmeckers, which, roughly translated, means those who know how good food should taste and who eat plenty of it."
So, without further introduction, here is the recipe provided by Time/Life; my method will be a melding of this recipe with methods introduced by Dave in his post:
*WHAT??? Saffron (widely known in Middle Eastern and Mediterranean cuisine) in a Pennsylvania Dutch (decended from south Germany) dish? What's this all about???
Patience, dear reader - all will be made clear during the preparation post.
For simplicity's sake, here is Dave's recipe for the potpie noodles, cut in half as he recommends:
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 23 January 2011 at 14:43 |
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Well, unfortunately there won't be any pix of today's preparation, and tomorrow I guess I am going to find out if that one-year replacement plan we purchased is any good!
I will post some preparations notes as soon as I can and will also post reactions to it. For now, here's the story on the saffron, provided by Time/Life:
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Melissa Mead
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Posted: 23 January 2011 at 14:55 |
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My mom was born in Pennsylvania Dutch country. I wouldn't be surprised if she knows how to make this. It sounds great.
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Posted: 23 January 2011 at 17:53 |
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ok, preparation of this wonderful, filling winter dish is going very well and we are in the final simmering. the smell filling the house is nothing short of phenomenal, and one really has to see it in action in order to appreciate the effect of the saffron, visually and otherwise.
a few notes on preparation: i forgot dave's admonition that the noodle recipe is good for two batches, so i have edited my post above to reflect an amount needed for one meal. i also added a few extra potatoes, since we have a big family. finally, rather than save some stock for later, i simply reduced it down to the required two quarts and de-fatted it using john's bread-slice trick (which works very well, by the way!).
it's just about time to plate this masterpiece - we'll see how it goes!
(later)
well, i must say, this was an excellent and satisfying meal that, as i predicted, reminded me so much of the meals i ate in my grandparents' home, even though they had never prepared this specific dish.
preparation went off without a hitch - the only thing i would say is that the extra potatos were not necessary, but they didn't hurt, either. the entire family loved it, including the beautiful mrs. tas, and their only complaint was that some of the potpies (noodles) were a little thick and therefore doughy/chewy. other than that, it was a smash success.
the next time i make this, i might add an onion and a couple of diced carrots, but to be honest, these would not be necessary. this dish was perfectly suited for chicken as prepared and i strongly urge anyone looking for hearty winter fare to try this.
i also want to thank dave very much for his inspiration, since i wouldn't have ever even thought of trying this unless i had seen his post!
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Posted: 23 January 2011 at 18:21 |
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Glad to see that you tried it. I appreciate the additional research that you did. I have to say that I've been to several Amish bulk store and I've never seen saffron.
Regarding the noodles. I am my brother like them doughy. In fact, I'll look for noodles that get balled up since they're likely to be more doughy in the center. If you have any leftovers, try frying them like hash. |
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Posted: 24 January 2011 at 16:44 |
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hey, dave - unfortunately there were no leftovers!
i did a little bit of light research on the google machine today and i do see many references to saffron in use with chicken recipes in lancaster county - maybe it is something more to do with some other pennsylvania dutch sect? evidently it is being grown and it is a hallmark both in a particular cake as well as many chicken recipes. it might be a simply a very localized thing - not sure ~
in any case, it was very, very good. i am truly sorry that my camera died on me because this entire preparation was picture perfect, except i added a couple of things a little early (this did not affect the dish, but i always try to follow a recipe closely the first time). i got pix of the goods and some of the prep work, but it died soon thereafter. i am returning it today and will hopefully have a new camera soon.
the more i think about it, the more i am sure that a little onion and also a couple of diced carrots would really make this sing ~ i'll know by next time ~
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Posted: 24 January 2011 at 18:26 |
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Regarding the different sects of amish, that is definitely true. In the rural area where I grew up there are 4 or 5 different sects. Each one is autonomous and really doesn't interact much with each other.
I hope your camera replacement goes well. |
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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 13:07 |
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just a quick footnote to my camera experience: i tried returning it to wal-mart the other day, and in spite of their large sign stating that they have a 90-day return policy (digital cameras were NOT on the list of excluded items), and in spite of the fact that i had purchased a replacement plan, the gals there declined to let me return or exchange due to the fact that i was about a week beyond 30 days
today, a couple days later, i went back again and spoke with the good folks at wally world. the crew that was working this time took my situation a little more seriously and after a few explanations and clarifications, they immediately exchanged it for a new one of identical make, model and quality - including a new replacement plan. this is fine with me, for it is a decent camera, but it isn't quite as nice as a GE camera i had a year or so ago (which was interestingly a little less expensive than this current one), so i will also be looking online for a replacement GE camera.
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Posted: 26 January 2011 at 16:32 |
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I'm glad that the camera worked out well.
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Posted: 04 September 2013 at 08:26 |
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This is a dish I have made every winter since discovering a recipe during the food network's heyday a number of years ago. It was a featured segment on the old show "Calling All Cooks" where the host travelled throughout the US in search of for ethnic family recipes. The show didn't last long. I was glued to the T.V. whenever it aired but I guess I was the only one watching.
I have enough potpie recipes to last several lifetimes so I had not opened this thread until this morning. I know this recipe by another name. Chicken Bott Boi.
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Posted: 04 September 2013 at 08:58 |
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Excellent stuff, for sure, and a reminder that, with autumn approaching, I should make another batch of this!
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Posted: 28 September 2016 at 15:11 |
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I haven't been out here for a while and was sticking my nose in the door on some of these older posts on PA Dutch recipes. I grew up eating chicken pot pie/chicken bott boi (bott boi is just the PA dutch spelling of in our German'ish languare). Most recipes are all very similar, the way I grew up with it was a whole boiled chicken, some salt and pepper. Pull the chicken and cut into small pieces add back to the pot, add your noodles to the boiling stock, cook until noodles are done. Also call these slippery noodles.
I have changed up how I make this now as an adult. I just use chicken thighs for the meat, usually get a family pack. Easy to clean after cooked. I now add a stalk of celery and once in a while will add some diced carrots, but not necessary. Tried potatoes once, just a little too much starch for me. I also add a box of chicken stock to beef up the flavor. I like it fairly strong. My noodles I actually make on my kitchen aide pasta roller set on just the first setting. Makes it easy to do the noodles. I lay them out on floured wax paper then flour the top also. When I add them into the stock, the flour helps thicken it up. Add the chicken back after the noodles are done. Viola! Plate this with a good hearty splash of apple cider vinegar. Good stuff. I make this all throughout the year, but fall and winter are the best times for this meal. Gut!! |
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Posted: 28 September 2016 at 15:30 |
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Hi, Michelle - it's great to see you here!
Thanks a million for sharing your experience with this; I enjoy my Time/Life books, but it is always better to get the "real scoop" from someone who lives there and experiences the food as part of their daily life. Gut, indeed! These days, I would agree with you 100% on the potatoes. If I were a hard-working farmer who put in 12 hours a day on the Back 40, it would be no big deal; but right now, I can't even imagine potatoes on top of home-made noodles - especially these ones, which are substantial (and delicious). The splash of cider vinegar sounds great! I will give that a try next time, because I can see my grandparents doing exactly the same. Thanks again for sharing, and hopefully we'll see more of you in the future! Ron |
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Posted: 30 September 2016 at 07:10 |
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pot pie is one of those dishes I can revisit over and over again...new variations are always wanted!
thanks all!
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Posted: 30 September 2016 at 09:04 |
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This is about as down-home as it gets, Dan - and really, really takes me to my grandmother's kitchen, even though she never made this exact dish.
I know that sounds weird, but I'm guessing that it might have the same effect on anyone making it. |
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