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TasunkaWitko
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Topic: anchoviesPosted: 30 March 2011 at 08:57 |
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HistoricFoodie
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Posted: 28 March 2012 at 12:51 |
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Are you going just with flat filets, or including rolled filets too? And what about anchovy paste?
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Posted: 28 March 2012 at 12:58 |
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Margi Cintrano
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Posted: 28 March 2012 at 13:03 |
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Ever try CUCA Galician octopus, tuna packed in olive oil or cockles ( berberechos ) ?
Anchovies from Cantabria, Spain are highly prized ... Italia too ... Brands: uncountable ...
Have nice evening.
M.C.
*** TUNA BRANDS: Here are two; Isabel, Calvo ( I have to look ) ... Also, ORTIZ
*** Sorry I do not eat sardines ... however, Isabel and Calvo or Cuca ---
though there are hundreds.
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Volamos a Mediterraneo, un paraiso que conquista su gente u su cocina.
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ChrisFlanders
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Posted: 29 March 2012 at 05:08 |
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Ansjovis is not only used as a main part in a recipe, it's been used as some sort of salty addition too, many times in meatdishes. It's a bit like using fish sauce in oriental (meat)dishes; the fish is not relevant, the salty part of the fish sauce is what they look for. I've seen western recipes where they started by melting a few ansjovis filets in butter first and then seared meat in it. You don't taste the ansjovis no more but it gives a very particular and of course salty kick to a good piece of red meat.
Also, there is a very famous recipe called "beurre Café de Paris". Sounds french but it isn't. It's a complex butter composition with many ingredients, invented and used since decennia in the brasserie Café de Paris in Geneva, Swiss! Many try to reproduce it, even in France, but the original composition still remains a secret. One thing is certain; it contains ansjovis. I found this recipe but have never made it myself. I prefer a simpler to make beurre maître d'hôtel (butter, fines herbes, garlic..) on my grilled meat. There's the Café de Paris website; http://www.cafe-de-paris.ch/ Beurre "Café de Paris" - a replica of the original 500 gr butter at room temperature To be cut finely first; 4 ansjovis filets from a tin - 1 tbsp capers - 1 small onion or shallot - 2 tbsp parcely - 2 tbsp chives - 1 tbsp dill - 2 cloves of garlic - 1/2 green bell pepper Other ingredients; juice of 1/2 lemon - 1 teaspoon lemon zeste - 1 teaspoon orange zeste - pinch of dried marjoram - pinch of dried thyme - pinch of rozemary - 1/2 teaspoon paprika powder - 1/2 teaspoon dried tarragon - 5 freshly ground black pepper corns - 1/2 teaspoon curry powder - 1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce - pinch of cayenne pepper - 1 tbsp cognac - 1 tbsp madeira wine - 1 tbsp ketchup Mix everything -except the butter- in a blender and set aside overnight to "merge the tastes". Next day; add the soft butter, the mixture and salt to taste. Put a tbsp of this cold butter mixture on grilled red meat such as entrecöte, served with good fries of course. |
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Posted: 29 March 2012 at 05:42 |
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One thing about Americans is the number of them who do not realize that anchovies are a salt element, primarily. But they add that certain something that you maybe can't identify, but which makes the particular flavor profile.
For most of us, our first (and only) direct use of anchovies is as a topping for pizza. With the result that we "don't like anchovies." Actually, we do. We just don't know it. When confronted with the "I don't lke anchovies" syndrome I ask, "do you like Ceasar Salad?" Almost always the answer is "yes." Well, surprise, surprise, surprise. Guess what the magic ingredient is in Ceasar dressing?
Then I ask if they use Worcestershire. "Of course. Love the stuff," is the usual response. And, there again, we find anchovies. It's one of the two ingredients that make Worcestershire special.
By this time I'm feeding them my roasted chicken adapted from the 18th century. It's hallmark: Rubbing the chicken, under the skin, with anchovy butter.
So, maybe they really don't not like anchovies after all.
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Posted: 29 March 2012 at 05:58 |
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Speaking of anchovy butter, it used to be much more popular than now.
If you're familiar with the Nero Wolfe detective novels, you know how much importance food plays in them. Archie Goodwin, Wolfe's assistent, was particularly fond of it, as reflected in comments like this:
".....and he was aware of my attitude toward bread triangles fried in anchovy butter, he had proceeded beyond the call of duty. Again I passed up a salad, but only because there wasn’t room for it.” from the book If Death Ever Slept.
Rex Stout, author of the books, also published "The Nero Wolfe Cookbook." In it, the note under his recipe for toast points fried in anchovy butter says, "serves 8-10 or one Archie Goodman."
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 29 March 2012 at 08:43 |
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i definitely agree with the notion that anchovies add a certain "something" that is hard to define, yet oh, so good ~ to me (and i could be wrong), it's along the lines of savoriness or that "umami" that is touted as the "5th taste."
chris, the "beurre Café de Paris" sounds incredible - if you don't mind, i've copied that into the "switzerland" forum, so that it can get a little more exposure....
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