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gracoman
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Posted: 26 August 2013 at 07:54 |
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How "buttered" microwave popcorn causes lung disease |
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Effigy
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Thanks for that. Its rather timely for me - I have just planted my first ever attempt at home grown popcorn. I will let you know how that works out in January.
I give the boys ACT II as a rare treat - like any such foods one bag a month is plenty and they get to share it between the two of them. Surely the real issue is one person consuming of three bags of popcorn a day? Following on from the good doctor's comment that the chemical occurs naturally in real butter, I am probably at greater risk from buttering my toast in the morning, baking, and mashing the spuds at night. That said, I probably won't ever buy it again. |
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gracoman
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Yeah, 3 bags of microwave popcorn per day translates into more problems than respiratory.
I thought it was only the US that allows poison on market shelves. It's perfectly legal to sell meat infected with salmonella here. Beat that one |
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AK1
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Another wonderful bit of Bullshit pseudoscience. Some typical guy pulling little bits and pieces of various studies to push forward an agenda.
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HistoricFoodie
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Putting aside whether or not the artificial butter causes health problems, I'd have to say, after tasting microwave popcorn, that anyone who eats 3-5 bags a day of that crap just about deserves anything that happens.
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Diet and human nutrition is one of the most controversial topics in the world today. It is vast, complex and continuously changing as new research expands our understanding. Progress is impeded by producers ever-lobbying to keep their products on the shelves. There will always be large discrepancies in research results between independent laboratories and producers funding research on their own products. The responses received to “Microwave Popcorn” are typical to any nutritional research that threatens a change in dietary habits. One attacks the messenger while the other attacks the victim when the real question is why are known poisons and carcinogens allowed on the shelves and into our food supply at all? The answers are always the same. Follow the money. I’d be happy to post several dozen more references to the microwave popcorn issue since it is so well documented. Heck the issue with MP bag linings was never even discussed. There is something very broken in our system of food production and distribution. |
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gonefishin
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graco...there is also the exploitation of studies as well. Too many times there are decades of articles referencing a first, ill written, article of an initial laboratory study.
I would rather discuss different types of popcorn seeds too. |
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I got my seeds from an online auction site.
When I was in Ohio I was offered some Amish Red Popcorn seed but there was no way I would have been able to bring it home. I still wish I could get my wee green thumbs on some, for now I am happy with the yellow seeds I have, I know it will grow - drying it is going to be an whole other matter in the humidity of a NZ summer. |
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Nowadays we order all our popcorn from Riehle's Select Popping Corn. Our favorite is the Baby White Rice, although not everyone likes a small kernel. For a topping I like a good fresh Olive Oil and either table salt or Tabasco salt (for that little kick). A nice Evoo is way better than butter on popcorn...to my taste anyway
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You say, "I'm having great fun with this" and "Don't make it out to be more than it is?" It is wonderful (sarcasm) that we have a bunch of little quips to post to make our feelings known. Sometimes you even get quotes from some of the greats, such as Nikola Tesla, Einstein, Bohr, Bohm, Leonardo of Pisa (not to mention Jefferson, Adams, Plato, etc, etc). Most times, like you, when people post the quotes from these people they do it as if they have the opinion of the author on their side...almost as if they believe it is some sort of validation. I would caution you (again), when reading these articles make no conclusion until you have read the original study in full. They do not always match up to the internet (or news/media) opinion that has been reported...sometimes this misinformation goes on for decades. Because I don't have the time, or inclination to look for the original study on your microwave popcorn topic I'll refrain from making any final determination. On the face, I suspect there is certainly some truths in the video you linked. |
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Graco, this may not mean what you think it does. The statement above is not saying that the voice of science is always correct. Science has gotten it wrong many times in our history, sometimes very wrong. It can just as easily read...The studies in which we teach are sometimes wrong, our perception and understanding sometimes flawed. But, given the chance to prove itself, science will always reveal what the truth is. That is how I read it. |
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I think we can all agree that too much buttered popcorn is going to do a person in; we can probably also agree that the microwave-packaged stuff is probably not as good in many ways (including taste, quality and nutritional value) as "the real stuff." As an alternative to all-out war on the subject, I offer this, if a person simply doesn't want to take a moment to make it "the old-fashioned way" (which happens to be my preferred method):
Hopefully this will put this topic to bed, as it is on the verge of getting silly ~ On a side note, I've never considered putting olive oil on popcorn, but it sounds worth a try - I can see possibilities with it, especially in combination with certain herbs or spices, and a minimal amount of salt, perhaps. Please guys, don't make me bring out Barney!
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Effigy
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When the kids were little and I couldn't afford 'Bags' I would go to our local bulk food trader "Bin Inn" and buy loose popcorn to microwave in just that fashion, so nothing new there!
The youngest is 17, and so is the microwave With Admin's permission I'm going to flick this topic to 'gardening' now because I am growing some corn for popping this year. How is that for an experiment? |
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Why fiddle with a bowl and plate?
Brown paper lunch bag, add popcorn and a little squirt of olive oil/butter/salt, fold the top and crease to secure...add a staple if so inclined. Pop just like you would a regular old commercial bag of popcorn. And no hot bowl to contend with. As to the health risks, it's like anything else that's processed. It's going to generally be filled with crap and not good for you in quantity. But I call bull on study. |
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Lupinus! great to see you, my friend!
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