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Making a case for a cast iron wok

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    Posted: 22 January 2013 at 11:28
I am nearly on the verge of getting "permission" for a Lodge Logic cast iron wok from Walmart.com; you can click on the link for the specifications:
 
 
And here's a photo from Amazon.com:
 
 
I'm really looking forward to it, and the price seems right (pretty much half of Lodge's MSRP), but I need to justify the cost to She Who Must Be Obeyed as something that will be used for more than just the occasional, once-per-year-or-so times that we make Chinese-type food.
 
One thing is for sure, if I get it, I will definitely be looking into Asian food itself a lot more, but I would like to also showcase some versatility. To me, it opens up a whole avenue into some new ways of cooking, with applications not just for Asian food, but many others where the unique properties of the wok can come in handy.
 
Unfortunately, I can't think of too many specifics at the moment, and my ideas on the matter are so general and broad-ranging as to be pretty much useless to someone who is looking to make a case of its purchase.
 
Any suggestions?
 
 
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I am just not usually a wok user even though I think the world of cast iron.

At one time I found a cast iron wok with it's own stand that held two cans of sterno. Two of my regular reenacting friends confessed to having worked as cooks in Chinese restaurants so we started carrying this wok and a cooler to do a sort of Mongolian BBQ after events. With two professional grade cooks we got spoiled very quickly.

I still have this wok set up but it is in storage in PA where we have a major events each August.

Later (when people were stocking up on cast iron for Y2K) I found a skillet handled cast iron wok like the one below. It was very cheap at the time ($8.-12.?) and became my Ex's favorite pan for everything from stir frying to pasta. It left with her. http://www.restaurantequipment.com/campchef.html I would recommend the long skillet handled version.

I usually feel a bit guilty about not buying American cast iron but a Chinese made wok does make a certain amount of sense.

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I have a lodge cast iron wok. If you want to make real chinese food at home it's the only way to go. 

Woks have been around for a long time and are meant to be placed over an open fire. As a camping item a hammered steel wok is very versatile. It is also meant to be used VERY hot. Only open flames can give that kind of heat to a round bottomed pan. Something not usually available to the American or European home kitchen.

At home in the modern kitchen is a different story. My cast iron wok has a flat bottom so it can efficiently conduct heat from an electric element. The flat bottom fasclitates it standing on it's own without using that ring that comes with hammered steel woks. Cast iron woks can get real hot and almost stay that way and that's real important to proper chinese cooking.

For deep frying small batches of things it is very efficient in the amount of oil it uses because of the round bottom. Frying in less oil it's high sides prevents a lot of splatter that happens in a shallower vessel.

You can steam things in a wok. You can braise or stew things in a wok. You can stir fry in a wok, and you cannot stir fry correctly in any other vessel at home.

And stir frying is where a very hot wok is king. If your family won't eat stir fried food because it has vegetables in it or they don't like Chinese flavorings than save your money.

Edit: And you're not going to flip a cast iron wok around like you would see done in a Chinese restaurant 'cause they're heavy! And if you get a choice of sizes always go for the biggest size you can get. There is nothing worse than trying to make too much food in a too small wok.
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Get a copy of The Thousand Recipe Chinese Cook Book by Gloria Bley Miller. It's got everything you would need to know about Chinese food. Not only recipes but how to cook it.
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I stand second to none in my love of cast iron.
 
But for a wok, to be used on a home stove, carbon steel is the way to go.
 
But listen to Rod's words. Most home stoves are not suitable for wok use, both because they don't get hot enough (next time you're in a Chinese restaurant take a look at the wok burners), and they concentrate the heat in the wrong place. You want the sides of the wok to build up heat, ratkher than just the bottom as is the case with standard pots and pans.
 
Given the circumstances---i.e., very occasional use---I would not spend my money on a wok at all. Sorry; I know that's not the answer you wanted. But there you go.
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My large wok is carbon steel, and I'm glad that it is....it was very easy to season, and light enough (just barely) to hang from my ceiling mounted pot rack.

If you do get one, you'll find yourself eating more nice fresh vegetables...I guarantee it. You'll be looking for excuses to stir fry.
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Originally posted by Dave Dave wrote:

If you do get one, you'll find yourself eating more nice fresh vegetables
 
This is definitely one thing I was thinking of, Dave ~ As I spend more time in the produce aisle, I'd like to expand a few horizons. With the beautiful Mrs. Tas and her mild diabetic condition (not to mention my weight/blood pressure issues), we got to thinking that jumping on the "meatless Monday" train might not be a bad idea; since I have absolutely no intention of buying fake meat products, I got to thinking I should jump in and truly embrace the produce aisle. Asian and Southeast-Asian cooking seems like a natural direction to go. Of course, to me, "meatless Monday" can also include fish and even chicken! Shocked Wink I also promised the beautiful Mrs. Tas that I would become proficient at fried rice.
 
I want to look into Oriental cooking more, including projects for this site, and figure I might as well go with the best choice that is practicable (and affordable). The Lodge offering, with its flat bottom and 14-inch diametre, seemed good to me, but I also figured its unique qualities would be good for other applications not normally associated with Chinese cooking.
 
We do currently have a wok, but it seems to be of less-than-great quality. some sort of light steel or heavy aluminum, needs a ring, hasen't been used in years so it is probably bent out of round, etc. I do remember that it needed to be seasoned with oil in the oven, so it must be some sort of steel, but certainly not a high-quality one. Perhaps I'll check out a few more options in woks, and also dust off the one we have and see if it might be good for a couple of introductory dishes.
 
My goal isn't to be a master Chinese/Oriental cooking expert, but I do want to be a half-decent amateur. Judging by the reading I've done, I should probably also invest in a cleaver, since that seems to be the most often-used tool in a Chinese kitchen.
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A Chinese cleaver is a great tool, Ron. But a cople of points:
 
1. Do not buy a cheap one such as those bamboo-handled ones sold in the big box stores. They're the next best thing to useless. This is a case where only the best will do. So figure the most you are willing to spend, then plan on spending 10% more than that.
 
2. Using a Chinese cleaver is an art form in itself. So be prepared to have a whole new hobby as you learn how to use it.
 
3. Although not absolutely necessary, Chinese cleavers often work most efficiently in pairs. So, if you want to do the best job, that means getting two of them.
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Chopping meat with two matching cleavers is fun! Remember that they are essentially vegetable knives, not bone whacking cleavers; those are different animals. Waffling the edge on a nice Chinese vegetable cleaver is a sad thing....I know.

I hope you can talk the wife into letting you get a wok and that you use it often. If you get the Lodge, you have to get a lid for it. A lid is required for many procedures. Get the wok spatula too. You'll need that. The ladle, not so much.


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Personally, I'm not a fan of the cast iron woks. Too heavy and cumbersome.

I'd sooner go with a decent carbon steel version.

Proper Wok cooking needs high heat with lots of BTU's

For home use I would suggest something like this;http://www.basspro.com/Eastman-Outdoors-Complete-Outdoor-Wok-Kit/product/57952/


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Originally posted by TasunkaWitko TasunkaWitko wrote:

Originally posted by Dave Dave wrote:

If you do get one, you'll find yourself eating more nice fresh vegetables
 
This is definitely one thing I was thinking of, Dave ~ As I spend more time in the produce aisle, I'd like to expand a few horizons. With the beautiful Mrs. Tas and her mild diabetic condition (not to mention my weight/blood pressure issues), we got to thinking that jumping on the "meatless Monday" train might not be a bad idea; since I have absolutely no intention of buying fake meat products, I got to thinking I should jump in and truly embrace the produce aisle. Asian and Southeast-Asian cooking seems like a natural direction to go. Of course, to me, "meatless Monday" can also include fish and even chicken! Shocked Wink I also promised the beautiful Mrs. Tas that I would become proficient at fried rice.
 
I want to look into Oriental cooking more, including projects for this site, and figure I might as well go with the best choice that is practicable (and affordable). The Lodge offering, with its flat bottom and 14-inch diametre, seemed good to me, but I also figured its unique qualities would be good for other applications not normally associated with Chinese cooking.
 
We do currently have a wok, but it seems to be of less-than-great quality. some sort of light steel or heavy aluminum, needs a ring, hasen't been used in years so it is probably bent out of round, etc. I do remember that it needed to be seasoned with oil in the oven, so it must be some sort of steel, but certainly not a high-quality one. Perhaps I'll check out a few more options in woks, and also dust off the one we have and see if it might be good for a couple of introductory dishes.
 
My goal isn't to be a master Chinese/Oriental cooking expert, but I do want to be a half-decent amateur. Judging by the reading I've done, I should probably also invest in a cleaver, since that seems to be the most often-used tool in a Chinese kitchen.



Well, as far as I'm concerned the only "secret" to making good fried rice is to cook your rice the day before and have it nice and cool before you start the fried rice....makes a big difference.

Here are a couple more recipes that I make quite often Ron, and they are very satisfying without any meat at all.



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Iron chef fried rice secret... GravyMaster. Shhh, don't tell anyone.
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