Spirited Cooking
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Topic: Spirited Cooking
Posted By: HistoricFoodie
Subject: Spirited Cooking
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 05:44
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Was watching that silly worst cooks show on FN last night. It came on, and I was too lazy to change the channel.
In one scene a contestent decides to use bourbon. He pours it directly into a heating pan. Naturally, it ignites. He keeps pouring, right into the flames. Was damned lucky not to have a line of fire from the pan to the bottle.
Meanwhile, the hosts (Bobby Flay and Ann Burrell) are saying how it could ignite the bourbon in the bottle and cause it to explode. One of the stupidest comments I've ever heard.
Anyway, I thought it might be useful to discuss how one cooks with spirits.
First off, let's understand what's going on. In order to ignite, alcohol has to vaporize and mix with air. What's burning is that oxygenated vapor. The liquid, per se, is not on fire. Thus, if, in the above scene, the flames had climbed the bourbon the danger would have been a potential serious burn. No way it actually could enter the bottle and cause it to explode. Molotov Cocktails use wicks for that very reason.
So, the correct way: When you are ready to add the wine or booze, remove the pan from the heat. Transfer the quantity of alcohol to a cup or what-have-you, and pour it into the pan. Do not pour directly from the bottle. Set a match to it. If the alcohol has warmed enough (which it should have) it will ignite. Return pan to burner and finish cooking the dish.
Frankly, this is not how professionals do it. But their kitchens are prepared to cope with fires and exhaust problems, while yours is not. So do it the safe way.
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 12 March 2012 at 10:38
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thanks for the education on this, brook - i've tried this a couple of times with spirit-based sauces, but judging by your post, i must not have gotten them warm enough. i'll be keeping these instructions in mind the next time!
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 01:49
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This is one subject I am an expert on, and Brook has pretty much hit the nail on the head. Liquids do not burn. Solids do not burn. The molecules within a solid body are excited when they are warmed, and eventually move around rapidly enough to emit carbon molecules above their surfaces, which react with the oxygen available there and begin a continuous chemical chain reaction that we all know as fire.
I used to enjoy it when I had a class of rookie firefighters in the classroom and told them to raise their hands if they think wood burns.  They would unanimously raise their hands until we got into the actual science of it and started explaining it.
There are many misconceptions about fire....that bottle of booze would never "explode" in his hands. It is a physical impossibility as Brook mentioned. Just like the old exploding gasoline tank on a car.."get back boys, it's going to blow!" Horseshit. It's not going to blow...a gasoline tank on fire is nothing to worry about..let it burn out. An empty gasoline tank full of vapors is what to worry about...that's the one that can send you sky-high.
Personally, when I flambe' on my gas cooktop, I measure it first into a cup, add it to my pan, and just tip the pan a bit until the burner ignites it, then let it go until it burns out.
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Posted By: HistoricFoodie
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 04:21
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The pour & tip method you describe, Dave, is the way pros do it. Except they usually don't pre-measure. They pour right from the bottle.
There is, however, a major problem for home cooks trying that, particularly inexperienced ones.
When you tip the pan, the alcohol tends to ignite with a sudden whooosh. This can be startling, even to those expecting it. Beginners often react by suddenly pulling back---spilling the contents on the stovetop, floor, and, sometimes, themselves. Then they go crazy trying to cope with the burning surfaces, which makes the problem worse.
While we preach 'til we're blue in the face about having fire extinguishers in the kitchen, the reality is it doesn't happen too often. Wouldn't surprise me to find that 99% of home kitchens lack fire extinguishers.
You, more than anyone else in this community, know what happens when unprepared people try to cope with a fire.
On the other hand, if they take the pot off the heat, first, they are not touching it when they apply a match. While the whooosh can still be startling, they don't react by spilling the burning contents.
The other aspect of pour-and-tip is that most home cooks, unfortunately, cook on electric stoves nowadays. And there's no way you can ignite the alcohol off one of those unless you spill it onto the burner.
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Posted By: Daikon
Date Posted: 13 March 2012 at 09:42
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Tipping the pan can still be useful even on electric cooktops. That is because it tends to put more-or-less pure alcohol up on the hot, bare metal of the pan where it readily vaporizes and ignites (albeit with the additional use of a match or lighter when using an electric cooktop.) Failure to ignite a flambe generally results from alcohol that doesn't get hot enough and/or becomes mixed with and diluted by whatever you are cooking before it gets a chance to ignite. Tipping the pan addresses both of those problems.
Necessarily having a hand on the handle of the pan while tipping it does contribute to the biggest danger of flambeing: jerking or otherwise violently moving the pan and spilling its flaming contents. The other big and dangerous mistake can happen even without tipping: leaning over the pan to watch carefully as you ignite the alcohol. And one more big one, of course, is having combustibles within about three feet over your cooktop -- and that includes a dirty, greasy range hood. Witness a fire in a range hood or fan duct once and you won't soon forget it!
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 01:26
Daikon wrote:
Tipping the pan can still be useful even on electric cooktops. That is because it tends to put more-or-less pure alcohol up on the hot, bare metal of the pan where it readily vaporizes and ignites (albeit with the additional use of a match or lighter when using an electric cooktop.) Failure to ignite a flambe generally results from alcohol that doesn't get hot enough and/or becomes mixed with and diluted by whatever you are cooking before it gets a chance to ignite. Tipping the pan addresses both of those problems.
Necessarily having a hand on the handle of the pan while tipping it does contribute to the biggest danger of flambeing: jerking or otherwise violently moving the pan and spilling its flaming contents. The other big and dangerous mistake can happen even without tipping: leaning over the pan to watch carefully as you ignite the alcohol. And one more big one, of course, is having combustibles within about three feet over your cooktop -- and that includes a dirty, greasy range hood. Witness a fire in a range hood or fan duct once and you won't soon forget it!
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I couldn't agree with you more Daikon...I've been called to extinguish more range hood and ductwork fires than I care to count, and it's always messy and sometimes results in the loss of the entire structure. If it's an operating restaurant, they will be shut down for a day or two at least for clean up and recharging of the automatic suppression system.
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Posted By: HistoricFoodie
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 04:24
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It's even worse in home kitchens. For starters, the range hood in a typical home kitchen is the next best thing to useless.
Somebody, anybody, please tell me what purpose is served by a non-venting hood? That's what's found in most apartments, though, and in many private homes.
Even with vented hoods, however, there are problems. First off, they rarely are powerful enough to do the job. One of the commonest complaints I hear from home cooks: Ya know, I had the exhaust set on high, and my smoke alarms still kept going off. This problem has gotten even worse with the widespread introduction of grills as part of home cooktops.
Secondly, the very last thing most home cooks think to clean is the inside of the range hood. They really believe that all the grease, and particulates from smoke, etc. are being vented to the outside.
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Posted By: Margi Cintrano
Date Posted: 14 March 2012 at 07:32
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Flambée-ing is an art. I too, sauté frequently with white wine and one has to know what they are doing and should take a course in this specialty type of culinary method.
Historic Foodie: Great post and thanks to all who have posted the be aware of´s ... One more point, is since I have long hair, I stand back, and stick my hair up while flambée-ing ... very quintessential.
Margi.
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