Pork belly and salsify
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Topic: Pork belly and salsify
Posted By: ChrisFlanders
Subject: Pork belly and salsify
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 10:32
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I post this in the Low Countries forum section, but porkbelly isn't all that popular here as a roasted piece of meat. Pork belly gets salted or smoked and is sold as bacon in my country. So, believe it or not, even for me this is a first! All suggestions and remarks you have concerning my try-out is wellcome. I have to add that it tasted a bit dry, maybe I did something unorthodox?
It's not a really big piece of meat but for 2 people it's plenty. I carved the top in a pattern for the fat to drip out more easy. Then I dry-roasted a bunch of spices; black and blonde mustard seeds, fennel seeds, all spice berries, juniper beries, koriander, lavas seeds chili...
I dry roast on a low flame for a long time so they get somewhat crunchy and easy to crush in the mortar.


Then I rubbed the meat with sunflower oil and the crunched spices and it went on a bed of onion in a roasting tray, a couple of chunks of butter on top.


I started cooking the meat in the oven at 200°C for around 20 minutes, then reduced the heat to 160°C and let the meat in the oven for 2 hours.
After that I covered the meat with "Sirop de Liège", an apple-and-pear pasta which tastes nicely balanced sweet and a bit sour. I'm not sure if this pasta is available in other countries. In case you're interested; http://www.sirop-de-liege.com/en/sirop-de-liege/index.php

Another half hour later, it's done. I served it with salsify and Brussels sprouts and a jus made from the roasting juices. Simply take the fat off, pour in a dash of vinegar to deglaze the tray, add white wine and let reduce. Add a few chunks of cold butter to emulsify.



Salsify is one of my favorite vegetables in wintertime. It's also known as "the poor man's asparagus", which is nonsense as salsify tastes very different. You need to wash them first, the're always sold sandy dirt included. Then peel them, cut and preserve in lemoned cold water to keep them from oxydizing. Normally we would serve them in a white sauce. I simply boiled them first in what is known as a "blanc". You can see in the 3rd picture below a milky liquid. That is simply cold water and a generous tbsp of flour mixed in. Bring a pot of water to a boil with a dash of vinegar, add the flour/water mixture and you have a "blanc". White vegetables come out nice and white after boiling in a "blanc". Brussels sprouts were boiled for approx. 10 minutes. Both veggies were sautéed in butter with s&p before serving.




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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 11:05
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hello, chris, and thank you for posting such an interesting meal; as always, your photography is beautiful in its simplicity, and never fails to illustrate your words very well.
your sirop de liège looks and sounds very similar to an idea some of us ahve been experimenting with lately, whereby we boil down apple cider to a molasses-like consistency for a purpose very similar to yours. dave (hoser) has a very informative post here: http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=1651&title=grilled-pork-chops-with-apple-cider-molasses - http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=1651&title=grilled-pork-chops-with-apple-cider-molasses your preparation method looks to be very good, with the scoring of the rind, the spices, the de-glazing and au jus etc., i think your flavour profile must have been spot-on. i am also impressed with the vegetables cooked au blanc; this is something that i have heard of, but have never seen. also, i have heard of salsify, but have never seen that, either, so your post has been a very good learning experience for me, and i thank you for that.
i am sorry to hear that your pork belly turned out a bit dry. and my only guess might be that the cooking temperature may have been too high and/or for too long, driving out the moisture. when doing a barbecued pork shoulder, ribs or beef brisket, i try to always keep the cooking temperature below 260F, which i believe is near 115C. This does, of course, result in longer cooking time, but it allows the meat to come "up to temperature" without forcing the moisture out. this is just a guess, but it does apply to barbecue, which uses similar types of meats, and also to roast cuts of meat that would be similar. jarrod (jdonly1) has a beautiful-looking recipe for a chinese carmelised pork belly here:
http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=747&title=caramelised-pork-belly - http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=747&title=caramelised-pork-belly
and perhaps some of his notes might apply.
i tend to be an optimistic person, and concentrate on the postive aspects; judging from what i see, your creatvity is great, your plating is elegant - a tweak with the actual cooking, at it will be ready for some of the finest restaurants!
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Posted By: HistoricFoodie
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 12:05
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Salsify used to be very popular here, Chris, but fell out of fashion long ago. So, alas, it's rare you can find it in American stores.
Salsify is also known as oyster plant, because there is, supposedly, a taste of oyster about it. Personally, I never noticed, but many people claim they can taste it. I even saw, once, a vegetarian "oyster stew" made with salsify instead of shellfish.
Deponent sayeth not as to the result!
There is a relative of salsify called scorezonera or some such. Common name is black salsify, because the skin is black, although the flesh is dead white. It grows both longer and thicker than salsify, and, it's claimed, has even more of the oyster-like flavor. It, too, fell out of fashion in the U.S.
I agree with Ron. I'm thinking if you cut back on the cooking time you should have a perfect dish on you hands.
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 16 March 2012 at 14:27
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A gorgeous dish Chris....I can hardly believe that you said it tasted dry. In the photo where you sliced it I can easily see all the moisture between the slices.
I am assuming that you let the meat rest for 10 or 15 minutes before slicing?
I guess I'd just put some sauce on it and feast away!
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Posted By: ChrisFlanders
Date Posted: 17 March 2012 at 05:21
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Ron, I'll have to do a search on the first link (it doesn't work) you posted (chops with apple molasses) which interest me enormously. There are still a few more artisanal manufacturers compared to the "sirop de Liège" who make that kind of apple sirop or paste. It's one of our respected regional products. Delicious on preparations like this. It can replace the use of brown sugar and what not. It's very stick, so a nice coating and you're done.
Brook, salsify belongs to what is called in Belgium the "forgotten vegetables", however, I have always eaten them since I was a kid. It's a mess cleaning them since they release a sticky milky substance when cutting them.
Interesting that the name scorzonera or similar rings a bell; the dutch name for salsify is "schorseneren". You're right, there seem to exist two varieties, the french names are scorsenère versus salsifis. We translate them both as schorseneren in dutch, but they are different, scorsenères are known to be somewhat more refined, they are smaller and don't come as one straight root, but more as a cluster of several roots of different sizes. What I used are the salsifis noirs (black salsify).
I always rest any meat after cooking, Dave. The slices look indeed moist, but the meat was a little dry. I presume to have overcooked it and yes, a spoon more sauce and a good beer aside and it goes down really well. This is however my first try-out with pork belly. Ron's suggestion to cook at 115°C instead of my 160°C might give a better result.
Any suggestions from experiences with cooking times and temperatures are very wellcome!
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 17 March 2012 at 10:53
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hi, chris - i've fixed the link above, so it should work well now!
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