Jumping into the Paella Tradition
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Topic: Jumping into the Paella Tradition
Posted By: Hoser
Subject: Jumping into the Paella Tradition
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 05:31
Well, I finally broke down and ordered myself a nice http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=576&title=tasunkawitkos-national-paella-day - paella pan online. It seems to be the exact model that Ron used while making his delicious looking paella earlier this year. I got it at the world market website, and it was only $15.00!....$4.50 shipping, but who the hell is going to complain about that?
Now I'm going to be jonesin' for paella big time until this comes in. I promise to make a batch and post it when it gets here.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 06:04
Big time congratulations! Now you can enjoy one of Spain's finest meals, all the while learning how easy it is to prepare. You all are set for the right ingredients having access to all that good fresh seafood; wow.
Glad to hear of your great pricing deal, can't beat it. You did great on that and now it looks like we have a triumvirate in the Forum for National Paella Day!
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 06:22
We will indeed my friend. Hasn't that already passed by? Yep...it has...it's March 27th...Well, there's always next year I suppose, but I'm itching to get some made up. I have a great Portugese market right down the street Seabra, that carries all the dried chourico and the fresh as well, lots of bomba rice, and I already have mucho saffron. This is going to be fun!
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 07:18
congrats! you're on your way now! looking forward to the pix of the new pan, and also your first paella!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 14:07
Is a paella pan necessary to make paella?
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 16:48
Apparently not Coxie...here's a link from http://www.cooksillustrated.com/search/results.asp?filters=&query=paella&x=26&y=2 - cook's illustrated where they used a dutch oven, and I've also heard some folks have had success with a large skillet.
apparently not Coxie
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 21 September 2010 at 21:36
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Well, to the traditionalist, and the Spaniard, you cannot have a paella without a "paellera" or paella pan. It is the design, made to be used over a charcoal/wood fire that is critical to get the "costra" (spanish) or "soccorrat" (basque) brown crusty rice at the botom that everyone loves.
Sort of like making a hamburger without the bun and using sliced bread instead. You end up with a hamburger sandwich, not a real hamburger. 
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 23 September 2010 at 11:49
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all this talk got me thinking i need to do another one, perhaps this weekend.
i'll be missing a few ingredients that i used last time, most notably the chorizo sausage, but i will have the main requirements: the pan, the rice and the saffron!
i am thinking venison ~ any suggestions for other ingredients, vegetables etc? i'm on a bit of a budget, but should be able to but something reasonable together.
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 02:33
Boy, I'll tell you Ron...those folks at world market sure do ship fast. I ordered this pan on Tuesday, and it showed up yesterday (Thursday) at noon. I'm thinking we may both be doing a paella this weekend
 I had just given it the initial boil, and was about to scrub it when this was taken. Finished that and oiled it up, and I am good to go!
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 04:06
As far as suggestions for what to make with the venison....do you have anything left in the garden? Obviously green beans, tomatoes and onions spring to mind. Garlic...maybe even a chili pepper or two...you planning on beef or chicken stock Ron? Basically, I think I'd do something close to the classic paella done with rabbit...it should work well with venison, don't you think?
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 09:27
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normally with venison i use a combination of beef and chicken stock, which seems to be better than either individually when bringing out the essence of the wild game. another thing i just reememebred is that a few years ago i actually made some vensions stock and put it in the freezer in ziplock bags, a cup or pint at a time. i only used it a couple of times, so tehre might be some left and there's no reason why it wouldn't be any good, since it was frozen. i just may give that a try.
as for the garden, it is running so far behind due to the late planting that i am afraid we're not going to get much from it. we've gotten lots of radishes and a few beets and some squashes are starting to go good. the problem is that we had our first freeze this week. it was very brief, but of course it was enough to get me concerned. #2 son mike has been taking good care of the garden this summer (except for weeding!) and we've had good rain, but i am jsut not sure it is going to be enough. would lovve to have a few bushels of tomatoes to can this year, but i don't tink its going to be in the cards.
for the paella, i am thinking of getting some fresh green beans or perhaps peas. along with the onion and garlic, that may do. i am relcutant to use peppers but some carrot shavings would provide a nice colour and flavour - and we just might have a few of those in the garden.
with the venison itself, i plan to cut it into strips or cubes and then saute it before using it in the paella. i got to thinking that grilling the meat pror to using it in the paella might be an option as well! where's our resident paella expert when we need him? 
how about you any particular plans for yours?
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 11:45
Unfortunately my paella plans are now on the back burner. Won't happen this weekend as we are flat out with my social director's (Rita) commitments.
I think the carrot idea is wonderful Ron...if you julienne or shred it, it will add a certain sweetness to the entire dish. I don't see a single thing wrong with marinating and grilling the venison first, either...I think it would be and awesome dish. You could saute' the veggies, get the broth and rice ready as you grill, then toss it all together.
I'm getting tummy pangs just thinking about it. Looking forward to the post!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 September 2010 at 14:24
Aarrg! No carrots....please no carrots! Yuck. Some reason I do not htink carrots have ever belonged in a paella, and if they ever were, a grand Inquisitor roasted that poor chef over a spit. Seriously. As far as grilling the meat prior to, that sounds delicious and see no reason why not. A rabbit or squirrel roasted on a stick over a fire as the paella was being prepared sounds logical and would certainly add a nice flavor. Green beans, peas, garlic, onions....that's all great. SOunds like you are in for a feast! Don't forget to make some nice bread to go with it...makes the whole meal better.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 September 2010 at 19:17
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Yes, you've got the right idea for paella. Although I admit to overdoing it sometimes, that's just 'cause we love the seafood! The author of the article hits some good points:
Sherry is an ingredient, that the "normal, article or recipe" paellas will never share or admit, possibly because they don't even know. I add white wine as a matter of course to mine, since that is how I learned it growing up. Why not sherry...why not? Use a nice one, dry "palomino" or as she said a "manzanilla" and you're set! Nothing wrong with that at all. Use what the recipe's region offers and you really can't go wrong. Certainly the locals have used any and all their area's offerings at one time or another...even carrots. 
Some of the best paellas are simple ones. Decide what kind you want to make and then consider the size of your Paella (pan). Imagine the rice that will expand and then you'll discover that the major ingredients fall into place for you. Fit them in and you are set for some feasting.
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 12:39
Well boys and girls....just ordered my Bomba rice from La Tienda. Not so bad a price as I have seen other places. Shipping is what really hurts...paid $13.95 for a kilo of rice, and another $7.00 to ship. Well, I figure a kilo of Bomba will get me through many, many, many good paellas, so I'm not about to start bitching about the price.
I'll let you folks know if the shipping turns out the way it was purported to be.
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 14:36
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yo're going to really like this rice, dave. if my memory is correct, it should be very similar to, if not the same as, abrorio and calasparra rice. very good stuff!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27 September 2010 at 15:07
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Dave you are gonna be a very happy man! Bomba is calasparra rice from Spain and that store is 100% top notch and reliable. You have any issue with their goods and they will refund and apologize immediately. It is a family operation from folks who understand customer service and quality goods. Unfortunately they are not inexpensive. I have shopped with them since they were an unknown outfit that got traffic through word of mouth. Back then they were incredibly cheap for the products they sold. IN the last 5 years or so they have wizened up and started charging National level retail prices for their goods, not that they shouldn't but unsettling when I remember what I USED to pay. They sure picked up on the "charge high prices and folks will assume its the best" business mentality when they already had the best of Spain for sale. Oh well....
Check out their pimenton (Spanish Paprika). Their 3 pack samplers are still a great buy and the best quality I have seen anywhere yet. You need their Smoked Paprika in your cupboard.
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 29 September 2010 at 05:51
Well, it's a done deal. My Bomba rice will be here tomorrow, so I have two forum members and their spouses (dcummings and J PEEP) coming over Saturday evening for the experiment. At this point in time it looks like the main proteins will be chicken, chourico, shrimp, littlenecks, mussels and crab claws.
I'll keep you posted as to how everything works out.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 29 September 2010 at 08:54
That sounds excellent! Don't forget some good wine to go with it and crusty bread. You all are going to have a treat 
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 29 September 2010 at 09:08
yes indeed - prepare for a wonderful feast!
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 29 September 2010 at 13:57
Rivet wrote:
Don't forget some good wine to go with it and crusty bread. |
J Peep is in charge of securing the Spanish wine....I don't care what color it is...this is going to be awesome.
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 14:08
Well, UPS dropped the ball on my bomba rice, but I'm hoping to see it tomorrow. I found a very interesting recipe at http://www.spanishtable.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TST&Category_Code=receta - The Spanish Table that, instead of calling for a set amount of an ingredient, calls for so much per person. I believe I'm going to try this method, because I need a whole lot more than 1/2 teaspoon of pimenton. I will most assuredly report back and let you folks know how it all worked out.
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 14:16
I found a very interesting recipe at http://www.spanishtable.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TST&Category_Code=receta - The Spanish Table that, instead of calling for a set amount of an ingredient, calls for so much per person. |
i really like this concept! when the time comes to post about it, please be sure to elaborate!
bummer about UPS dropping the ball. if you want to wait for the rice from la tienda to arrive, i understand 100%, but if you are impatient to try this and want to "get 'er done," then as i recall you should be able to use any calasparra (spanish) or abrorio (italian) rice that may be in your local grocery as they are identical. check with john to confirm, but i am almost 100% certain.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 30 September 2010 at 16:21
Hoser wrote:
Well, UPS dropped the ball on my bomba rice, but I'm hoping to see it tomorrow. I found a very interesting recipe at http://www.spanishtable.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TST&Category_Code=receta - The Spanish Table that, instead of calling for a set amount of an ingredient, calls for so much per person. I believe I'm going to try this method, because I need a whole lot more than 1/2 teaspoon of pimenton. I will most assuredly report back and let you folks know how it all worked out. |
Dave, you are so correct in the research from the Spanish Table. No one I have ever known has ever made a paella by the numbers (measurements). Paella is a huge pan-feast who's feeding is dictated by the size of the pan and the number of folks eating. One piles on what they want in the amounts they want , keeping with the three major "musts" the correct rice, saffron and the pan.
With my pan I always use about 2 heaping tablespoons of pimenton and that is just about right for that underlying layer of spice. Take a look at your paellera and go from there.
Paella is an epitome of an Ur-Dish. Throw most all rules out the window...meaning "recipes" because Paella transcends recipes and is what it is~ a Paella. Make it from what you have and what you like and enjoy its nourishment with those whose company you enjoy.
It is that simple.
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Posted By: Boilermaker
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 18:21
I got me one of these paelleras from World Market tonight! Heckuva deal for $14.99 and the real thing from Spain, not some cheap Asian knockoff. Woo hoo!
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 04:02
I love that world market...they are very reliable
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 08:26
andy, you're gonna love it! will be interesting to see which kind of paella you decide to make - so many options!
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 11 April 2012 at 16:02
For those who might be wondering, http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=863&title=la-noche-de-paella - here's how Dave's first paella journey turned out:
http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=863&title=la-noche-de-paella - http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=863&title=la-noche-de-paella
~ magnifico!
if you make a paella for the first time, post a link to it here as a reply on this thread, so we can check it out!
here's my first paella:
http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=576&title=paella-the-national-dish-of-spain - http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=576&title=paella-the-national-dish-of-spain
...and here's andy's first paella:
http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=981&title=my-first-paella - http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=981&title=my-first-paella
~ wonderful!
and here's jerod's:
http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=462&title=my-take-on-paella-de-marisco - http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=462&title=my-take-on-paella-de-marisco
lovin' every minute of it!
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 12 April 2012 at 10:28
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dave - for the benefit of beginners, would you mind reviewing the "per person" method that you found for making paella?
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Posted By: Hoser
Date Posted: 13 April 2012 at 02:45
TasunkaWitko wrote:
dave - for the benefit of beginners, would you mind reviewing the "per person" method that you found for making paella? |
I'll be glad to Ron...this is the recipe I put in my cookbook, and it's the one I use on a regular basis.
Paella
The
Spanish one-dish meal named after the pan it is cooked in. A
pallera...try this out on the grill. It is well worth it to
purchase an inexpensive paellera and also the imported Bomba
rice. All paellas are a bit different...I like this recipe because
there are only set amounts per person. I have made this paella
(opposite) and the ratios per person worked out to a Tee.
1/3
cup bomba rice per person 1 cup chicken broth
per person 1/8 tsp saffron per person Extra
virgin olive oil to cover the paellera 1 chicken
thigh per person 1/2 stick chorizo sausage per
person, sliced in 1/4" pieces 1/2 tsp
pimenton (smoked sweet paprika) per person. 1
clove minced garlic per person 1/4 cup chopped
onions per person 1/8 cup grated tomato per
person 2 large shrimp per person 4
small clams and mussels per person 1 jar
piquillo peppers cut into strips 1/4 cup fresh
or frozen green peas per person Lemon wedges to
garnish
Bring
the paellera to temperature over high heat (whatever method you are
using). Heat the chicken stock in a different pot with. Add the
olive oil to the paellera and cook the chicken until it begins to
brown. Add the garlic and onion and saute until transparent. Add
chorizo and cook until heated, and rendering some of it's fat Add
the rice and stir until well coated with oil. Add the paprika,
grated tomato and saffron and stir. Add the chicken stock and
bring to a boil while scraping the bottom of the pan. Now the rice
should be level and you should not have to stir anymore. Try to
keep the heat at a simmer..if you're using the stove, you may have to
use two burners and turn the pan frequently. When the rice has
absorbed some liquid but still has a soupy appearance, add the
mussels and clams. Once the rice is cooked, add the shrimp,
tucking them down into the rice, then the pepper strips and the green
peas. During this time the rice should be caramelizing on the
bottom of the pan, creating the socarrat, or toasted layer of
rice. Turn up the heat a little if necessary to achieve
this...you'll hear the rice crackling and it will smell
sweet.
Sprinkle with chopped parsley, garnish with lemon
wedges and serve.
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 13 April 2012 at 07:12
Dave wrote:
this is the recipe I put in my cookbook |
Aye, my friend - I figured you should have the honour of sharing it! 
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Posted By: TasunkaWitko
Date Posted: 08 May 2012 at 14:10
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here's another example of how easy paella can be for anyone, beginners or experts. it's simple!
http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=2149&title=paella-from-beginning-to-end - http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=2149&title=paella-from-beginning-to-end
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