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    Posted: 11 February 2011 at 14:28
Hi folks, I need guidance on making a salsa. I have lots of chillis ripe on the vines at the moment, and still more hanging up in ristras. Cayennes, habaneros (red and yellow), anaheim, wildfire, bell peppers, and the tomatoes are in season and fruiting hard as well.

Now, I don't have the ability to cold smoke (so following satan's salsa is out I'm afraid), but I could hot smoke briefly.

I've never made a salsa, and a good salsa is very rarely seen in NZ, so I'm hoping to gather some advice here. I'd like to make something really chunky, and just inside the border of too hot to have as a dip for tortilla chips.

I have all the other suspects for ingredients, corriander, spring onions, etc etc.

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Kiwi, you don't have to cold smoke chili peppers for salsa. Matter of fact lots of Arizona / New Mexico salsas (the local ones) are made from the local Jalapeno specialty of fire roasted peppers. These babies are roasted over open fire in huge cylindrical expanded-metal contraptions, much like a rotisserie. When black and toasted they are sold in paper sacks to the passers by to munch on as-is, take home to put into recipes or salsas.
 
I smoked my peppers for the Satan's Salsa at 225 if I recall...or thereabouts. My smoker isn't tight enough to control temps much lower than that, plus being wood/charcoal burning, cold smoking is out of the question.
 
A good controlled way to prep your chilis is to put them on an un-greased metal sheet and broil them in the oven until they are toasty. This only takes a few minutes so keep your eye on them like a hawk!
 
Once cool, chop them up for your recipe.
 
If you want a "fresh" or "gardeny" taste, don't broil them. Use them raw. If you want a deeper, richer, "smoky" flavor to your salsa, broil or smoke them.
 
The best results I've found are to take cut up chilis, mix them with garlic and some peppercorns and put them in a jar filled with apple cider vinegar for about 2 weeks at room temp. Use the liquid in your salsa as well and it adds a ton of flavor.
 
Cilantro leaf, lime juice, onions are best used raw and chopped up just before mixing.
 
Your heat level will be controlled by the amoount of seeds you allow into the mix as well as how hot the chilis were to begin with. Just taste the final mix before canning and you can tell. If too hot dilute with lime or lemon juice, orange juice (if you can get juice from bitter oranges even better), and vinegar.
 
Ground coriander seed helps "smooth" out the flavors if too sharp.
 
Also, use plenty of fresh coarsley chopped tomatoes for flavor and chunkiness. Just under-ripe (not too sweet) diced mangoes are real nice too. Bell peppers will add nice taste, chunks and moderate heat.
 
Use your judgement in tasting the finished mix before you can it. Everything will mellow out when you can it, but if it is too hot in that state, it will probably be too hot for you once canned, as well.
 
Hope this helps; be glad to clarify anything if you need. Good luck on your salsa and keep us posted!
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kiwi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2011 at 16:32
Yeah I think I'll be giving the habanero seeds a miss. I'm too fond of my palete :)

I'll see how I go. I'm not really very familiar with canning so I'm not sure how much cooking to expect during the process. We'll see I guess!

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i'm guessing that, depending on the size of the batch and portioniing into suitable containers, freezing might work as well as canning?
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If I freeze (which is actually pretty appealing) I'll have to cook for a bit first though, right?
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i'm not sure - some of the best salsa i've had has been FRESH salsa, but then again, some cooking or simmering might be necessary in order to get the flavours married together. i can't imagine any food safety concerns, since the acidic content and possibly the salt content should be adequate to keep that from happening - to be honest, i don't know for sure, though.
 
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Unfortunately, the timetable of availability from the garden doesn't allow for smoking and soaking in vinegar, I wish it did! Maybe I'll do some anyway and put it away for a future batch.
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I'm not super stressed about the food safety concerns, I think I can handle that side of things.
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You can make fresh salsa for use the same day with fresh ingredients and keep it in the fridge for a couple weeks. Not sure about freezing, think the onions and tomatoes might go off and soft.
 
A fresh salsa is much more authentic anyway. Canned salsas were devised for shipment and long term storage, something that isn't much of a worry in tropical climates.
 
You'll be fine with any fresh salsa you make and with the proper mix of ingredients for your taste it will be perfect! Just go at it and enjoy.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kiwi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2011 at 19:36
Alright, here's what I've got to work with (pepper wise anyway)
 
Clockwise from top red and green anahiem (they don't ripen very well in my garden), then a unknown green, quite mild and sweet, red and green bell peppers, red and green wildfires (more of those available if needed), habaneros (more of them too but I'm scared of them), cayennes. I'm thinking about roasting or hot smoking the hot ones, and using everything else diced up fresh. There aren't enough tomatoes in my garden so I'll have to add some canned I guess. bit of a shame but what can you do! I'm not about to spend $5 a kg on buying some fresh. Suggestions or hints still welcome, I've got to clean out the smoker now.
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Here is my basic salsa recipe that I use.  I vary it by adding different types and amounts of chilis; habaneros, tabascos and bhut jolokias from Rivet, chipotles, smoked habs, etc.  This is the type of salsa that is commonly served in Mexican restaurants here in the States and is a cooked salsa that both cans and freezes well.

2 1/2 teaspoons dried cilantro or 1/4 finely chopped cup fresh cilantro (I use fresh as it has a brighter flavor)
2 teaspoons ground cumin
1 tablespoon plus 2 teaspoons salt
3 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon white vinegar
juice of 1 lime
5 - 22 oz cans of whole tomatoes
1/4 cup minced fresh garlic
3/4 cup canned jalapeno slices, drained

In a large stockpot combine the cilantro, cumin, salt, lime juice and vinegar and set aside.  Puree two cans of the tomatoes, the garlic, the jalapeno slices, and any additional chilis you are using in a blender and add to the pot.  Chop the remaining tomatoes and add them along with their juice to the pot.  Cook over low heat (bring to a low boil and then cut back the heat) for 30 minutes.  Ladle into pint jars and either process in pressure cooker, cold pack for 40 minutes, or freeze.

Like I said this is my base recipe and you can add whatever additional peppers you like. You can vary the chunkiness of the final salsa by substituting diced tomatoes for whole, pureeing more or less of the tomatoes, etc. 
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Awesome, thanks for that. I think I'll make a cooked salsa today, and maybe a fresh with the next harvest of chili. most of my plants should have another couple of fruitings in them, maybe not the anaheims, they don' t seem to like it here. the habaneros love it on the other hand. That's just half of one bush in the photo, I've got 4 bushes of the buggers.
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Some habaneros are now smoking on ex bourbon oak, with a good few splashes of bourbon on the tray as well. smells pretty yummy!
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Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

Awesome, thanks for that. I think I'll make a cooked salsa today, and maybe a fresh with the next harvest of chili. most of my plants should have another couple of fruitings in them, maybe not the anaheims, they don' t seem to like it here. the habaneros love it on the other hand. That's just half of one bush in the photo, I've got 4 bushes of the buggers.


You are most welcome! 

It is variations of this salsa that I have sent to several folks here on the forum. I just vary the chilis that I add and sometimes I make it really chunky and other times not so much so, sometimes really hot and sometimes mild.   Everyone seems to like it and we like it so I guess it is pretty good.

I can't take credit for the recipe though, it is actually the house recipe for salsa from a very famous Mexican restaurant in Little Rock, Arkansas.  I got it from a buddy of mine who is from Little Rock and is friends with the owner. Clap  He gave me a pint of it years ago and I loved it and he gave me the recipe and I have been making it ever since .
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I sometimes put tomatillos in mine.
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no idea what they are, sorry :(
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http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/Articles/Produce-638/tomatillos.aspx

(Of course, I make my salsa very, very mild. I don't know how well they go with the hotter stuff.)
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I will get ya something tomorrow.....a to die for recipe or so it has been told to me...lol....if ya have already got one please let me know. I am to drunk and to tired to read the whole thread.
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Haha, I am sorted now, but I'd still love to see it, got14u, the summer is still young :) well, maybe middle aged.
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Well, you have the two "salsa kings" here offering advice. I have sampled salsas from Rivet and also from Boilermaker, and I have to tell you...these guys are tops.

They both have asbestos pallets however, so I might use a wee bit of caution on the habaneros and bhut jolokias.Cry

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