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    Posted: 22 November 2010 at 13:26
my mother is from south-central and south-western colorado, a state with a good chili tradition. having said that, nearly every ingredient in her chili always came out of a can (tomatoes, beans etc.) and it was made from ground beef. good chili, but not probably not the real experience.

to me, chili is a celebration of four flavours: beef, onions, and tomato - held together by the common denominator of the chile, which provides the base and, of course, heat, to the degree that you desire. great chili doesn't have to be hot, but it should definitely be a warm, satisfying experience that will leave no doubt as to the region of origin.

i have two methods that i use for chili. one is closer to authentic, i think, and one is purely for "comfort food" or weeknight/schoolnight/worknight food.


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a) for the first:

my favourite beef for chili is chuck roast, cut into cubes. if you are not familiar with this cut, any cubes cut from the neck, shoulder and upper front quarter will be fine. you want tough, hard-working, wonderfully-flavourful cuts that are going to turn perfectly tender with slow cooking.

the chiles should be dried, smoked if you can get them. they can be hot or mild as you prefer, but i recomend going on the mild side, as you can add crushed red pepper flakes to the final dish, if you prefer. reconsititute them in enough hot water to cover them, then pulverise them into a paste (instructions below). diced onions and tomatoes should be prevalent almost to the point of dominating the dish, but not quite. for liquids, you want tomato sauce and beef broth or stock.

here's a good recipe that i used as a base, then improvised for "chile colorado;" i'll post the recipe, then add my modifications:

Quote Chile Colorado

8 dried red chiles (such as Guajillo, California or New Mexico) rehydrated and ground into a paste (see below)
3-pound beef roast
1 can beef broth
1 can tomato sauce
4 cloves of garlic, peeled and finely diced
1 tablespoon dried oregano
1 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons lard or oil for frying

Rehydrating Dried Chiles:

Pick dried chiles that have no tears or broken pieces. Use whole chiles that look fresh. Rinse off any excess dust or grime under cool water. Pat dry then cut the top off of each chile and then slit it down the middle. Shake out the seeds, using your fingers or a spoon to dislodge any seeds that want to stick. Peel off any excess dried veins that are lighter in color and run in a line down the inside.

Heat a comal (or griddle) over medium/high heat and roast the dried chiles for 2-3 minutes. Turn them often to avoid burning them. Then you're going to cover the chiles in hot water and let them soak for about 30 minutes. Remove the chiles from the water and place the chiles in a blender with about 1/4 cup of water or the soaking liquid (if it is not too bitter) and puree until smooth. You can also add the garlic and oregano to the chiles while blending them. The finished puree is what you will add to the Chile Colorado.

Preparation:

Simmer the beef in a large pot for 2-3 hours or until it is fork tender. This can also be done in a crock pot during the day. Remove the beef from the water, and drain the water out of the pot. Add the lard or oil into the pot over medium/high heat. Cut or pull the beef into bite sized pieces and fry them in the oil briefly. (This step can be skipped for a lower fat version.) Add the beef broth, tomato sauce, seasoning and chile paste to the pot and simmer for 30 minutes. Serve with steaming hot flour tortillas and a side of chopped white onion and chopped cilantro leaves.


i added to the recipe above a large diced onion, which i carmelised first in a dutch oven (with the minced garlic near the end); then i set the onions aside and seared the cubes of beef, similar to making carbonade flamande. i then prepared the peppers as described above, brought the onions, beef and chile puree together with the tomato sauce and also a can of crushed tomatoes. added the spices (including a scant tablespoon each of cumin and paprika) and broth (stock would be better, of course). into the oven at 275-300 for two hours or so, and it was really good.

the simple flavors made an almost-perfect combination. i omitted the salt, since the tomatoes and beef broth seemed to have plenty. the chiles provided the right amount of spice without being overpowering or oppressive - overall, i was impressed.

if this dish needs any thickening, masa harina or crushed tortilla chips would be best, if available - having said that, it can probably be thickened through simple reduction. beans can be added if you like, or can be served on the side in their own right. tortillas are a good way to scoop everything up.


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b) the second is really just a variation on the chili my mother made when i was young. this recipe might be frowned upon by the hardcore chili-ologists, but it works and feeds two adults and four children with some leftovers for the next day. it is not meant to be a historic, authentic, definitive or "gourmet" recipe, just some very good work-night food. due to what is in the pantry or to the mood at the time, we do not use all listed herbs and spices all the time, but it seems, to me, to be much more interesting when we do. for a smaller number of people, cut recipe in half:

Quote My Mother's Chili

2 large + 1 small cans of diced tomatoes
2 large + 1 small cans of chili beans
2-3 pounds of ground meat or meat cubes (hamburger, deer, elk, chorizo, anything. i tried 1/2 ground pork and 1/2 hamburger once and it was great!)
2 small cans of tomato sauce
2 small cans of tomato paste
1 large yellow onion, diced
4 garlic cloves, chopped fine
*optional - a dash or two of liquid smoke

also, combine all these spices in a container and set aside:

3 Tbsp. chili powder (or to taste)
1 Tbsp paprika (smoked, if you have it) (or to taste)
1 Tbsp. dry oregano (or to taste)
1 Tbsp. cumin (or to taste)
2 tsp. coriander (or to taste)
2 tsp. freshly-ground black pepper
4 beef bullion cubes, crushed (or equivalent amount in granules)

brown the hamburger with the onion and garlic on high until the "juice" is gone and you've got nothing but meat and fat left. some people like to drain the fat, some like to leave it in; i prefer to drain it. if you use meat cubes rather than burger, brown them in 2 Tbsp. of hot oil. remove from the heat, add the spices and stir well, then add tomatoes and beans, return to heat and cook, stirring constantly, until juices reduce down. add tomato sauce, tomato paste and liquid smoke (optional). bring to boiling, stirring often, then reduce heat down to low and simmer until you can't wait any longer.


this recipe relies on store-bought chili beans, which might be a no-no to the die-hards, but is essential to working parents with 4 kids. keep in mind that these store-bought beans usually already have a bit of seasoning and chili powder, so the amounts i suggest reflect that fact. this recipe also does not have jalapenos, green peppers, cayenne peppers or habaneros, although you may certainly add them if you want to.

i really like cumin, but the beautiful mrs. tas doesn't, so i often leave it out. i did add a bit of liquid smoke once whistle (OBVIOUSLY, smoked chunks or shreds of brisket or chuck roast would be better), and got a great outdoors flavor that i really liked and my wife really hated. give it a try at your discretion.
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I'm quite versatile when it comes to chili...I like it with kidney beans, but I also love Cincinnatti chili over pasta without the beans. It's all good, and this recipe looks to be quite tasty.
Nice job Ron!

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Looks good, Ron.  Mrs. Andy was just saying tonight that it's time to stir up a big pot of Georgia Red (that's what we call ours).
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the recipe does work well, even with all of the canned components. we made this again the other night using the same recipe and venison, but it got a chance to simmer longer and was much richer and tastier!
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Your recipe is real close to the one I use.  Venison sure does make good chili.  Unfortunately, I lost my deer lease this year and, consequently, haven't been out hunting so no venison for us this year. Cry  I have also made it out of bear meat and bear meat along with deer which is also very good.  The wonderful thing about chili is there is no right or wrong way to make it, there are as many chili recipes as there are chili cooks!

A good place to buy your chili powders and spices is Mild Bills in Texas http://www.mildbills.com .  I have been buying from him for years and highly recommend him.   His prices are reasonable and he gives good customer service, buying your powders in bulk from him and keeping them in the freezer is a lot more economical than buying the little cans of even the store brand powders which are much inferior to what he offers.  Also will mention that his bulk bags of what he calls San Antonio Original powder is actually Genuine Gebhardt's Chili powder, they just made him stop labeling it as such a couple of years ago as they only want to sell it as Gebhardt's in the more expensive little jars and big 5 pound pails.

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What I see here is that you are making it wrong.  There is only one proper way to make Chili, and that is the way I make it. This is the standard mantra from anyone who makes chili; I'm right & you're wrongTongue

Seriously though... That looks real tastyThumbs Up
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I avoid that argument by pointing out that I make the second best chili in the world. Nobody wants to fight for that position. Evil Smile
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due to our recent conversations on chile, i've updated my original post here, and have included my two favourite methods for chili.
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Update on this -

The Beautiful Mrs. Tas finds cumin to be much more congenial these days, so we use it more and more when we make my mother's Chili, in spite of the fact that my mother herself would very rarely, if ever, put added cumin into hers.

As for the Chile Colorado, I think I might give it another go, this coming weekend....

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One tip about canned ingredients, Ron: Because they're always playing with the net-weight contents of canned and jarred foods, it's a good idea to translate what you are using into weight or volume measurements. Otherwise, sooner or later, you'll be making a totally different recipe.

I remember running into that with Tom Burris' seafood cocktail sauce, and it was a real chore to recreate it when none of the can/jar sizes were the same.
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You're definitely right, Brook - at the time I originally typed this out, I didn't have the sizes in front of me, so they went down as "large" and "small."

The next time we make this, I'll try to remember to clarify that; can sizes vary a bit, but the total amount is what matters, or close to it.
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When we're talking chili, Ron, there's a lot of fudge-factor room. But some recipes (like the cocktail sauce) can really suffer from radical sizes.

Just consider: A standard (#2.5) can used to have a net contents of a pound. Then they dropped it to 14 ounces. And now they're down to 12 ounces.

That's what? A 25% reduction in contents?

Horseradish, when I was a kid (back when there were wolves in Wales and snakes in Ireland), prepared horseradish came only in those vertical jars, holding, as I recall, 3 ounces. Now they come in various sizes, weighing as much as 8 ounces. Just think what "one jar" could do to a recipe.

No sense belaboring the point. I offered only as something to keep in mind.
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Reminds me of my mom's story of one of my grandma's recipe that called for "a wineglass full" of something.

Turns out Grandma's wineglasses are 1/3 the size of modern ones,
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