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TasunkaWitko 
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 Posted: 14 May 2013 at 09:20 |
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That's good to keep in mind, Brook - thanks! It probably wouldn't make a difference if I plant them at opposite ends of the garden, I'm guessing? The acorn was going to go into the 3 sisters patch that I'll attempt, and the zucchini would be on the other side of the garden, probably.
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HistoricFoodie
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Posted: 14 May 2013 at 09:23 |
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Ron, I am sending you, via snail mail, a copy of a chart developed by the folks at UC-Davis. It will tell you when to start seed of various veggies, and when to transplant it, based on your frost dates.
This will let you maximize your garden productivity, because you can plan succession plantings based on relative hardiness. For instance, onion plants can be put in the ground as much as six weeks before last frost. If you start your own from seed, you do that ten weeks before transplant date. For me that means we set onion seed in January, for transplant in March. Or order plants from Dixondale for March delivery. If you want, there's no reason you can't scan the chart and post it here. Whether or not you do that, be sure and make a couple of copies, keeping a blank one as a master for future use. |
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 14 May 2013 at 09:35 |
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Much appreciated, Brook - I'll definitely put it to good use, and should be able to easily scan it for members of the forum.
I got to thinking about the onions. Every year we have "leftovers" from the year before that come up. Planting them (and garlic) in the fall would make good sense. The back of my mind worries about the 40 below zero and frozen-solid ground up here for 6 monhts, but evidently the onions that spring up every spring don't seem to mind ~ lol It's funny - when May First came around (the time we SHOULD have been starting the ones we started last night), my youngest son kept looking for reasons to not be able to help with it. When we finally got started last night, he had a great time, and took charge of the project, picking out what to plant and so forth. I'm hoping he gets the bug. One thing that is going to help a LOT is that, in a few weeks, we'll have our own roto-tiller, rather than relying on borrowing one, so I can do things more the way I want to, when I want to. This will be a big factor in things such as fall tilling and planting etc., not to mention getting an early start, rather than relying on when my dad's done with his.
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Posted: 14 May 2013 at 12:49 |
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Common onions are pretty hardy, Ron, and just might survive over-winter.
Garlic is all but impossible to kill. Much of it originated in places like Siberia, the Georgian Republic, the mountainous country of the Russo-Islamic Republics, etc. So I doubt you winters will even be noticed. Multiplying onions are supposed to be fall planted, just like garlic. And bunching onions are perennials, so, again, should have little trouble with your winters. |
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Melissa Mead
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Posted: 26 May 2013 at 09:02 |
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My seeds arrived! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7OYNI
I also have romaine lettuce, purple and yellow beans, peas, carrots, parsley, nasturtiums, and 2 tomato plants that I may have waited too long to transplant. |
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Melissa Mead
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Posted: 26 May 2013 at 10:59 |
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It looks like I have more seeds than I do pots. I know that tomatoes and basil are supposed to do well together. Can anything else share a pot?
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HistoricFoodie
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Posted: 26 May 2013 at 16:58 |
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Young dill and tomatoes can be planted together, Melissa. But tomatoes and mature dill are antagonistic.
Garlic can be planted with almost anything except legumes. And it has certain anti-pest properties as well. A lot depends on the size of your pots, or course. Other tomato companions include asparagus, carrots, celery, cucumbers, onions, parsley, and peppers. Bean companions include beet, the cabbage family, carrots, celery, chard, corn, cucumber, eggplant, peas, potatoes, radishes, and strawberries. On your too-tall tomatoes, just bury them as close to their crowns as possible in your pots. Wherever they are in the soil the stems will send out new roots, and the tops will continue to grow. |
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Melissa Mead
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Posted: 26 May 2013 at 18:27 |
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Thanks! I really hope the tomato worms don't come back this year, and I actually get some tomatoes. My sister gave me some Orange Peruche plants, and I love those.
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 07:17 |
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A little late to do it this year, but borage repels the hornworm moths.
Interplant it heavily (at least one plant between every two tomato plants.). In addition to being a great companion plant, borage is beautiful. And the flowers are edible. All in all, a perfect garden plant. |
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Melissa Mead
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Posted: 27 May 2013 at 07:59 |
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We've had record cold, so maybe it would work. I haven't seen it for sale recently, though.
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Posted: 28 May 2013 at 09:31 |
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hope that the planting goes well, melissa - i do believe we'll be tilling/planting this coming weekend ~
interesting discussion on plants that do well together and help each other out - it's great to know these things, in order to maximise a garden's potential!
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Posted: 28 May 2013 at 19:27 |
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Thanks!
Actually, I only HAVE 2 tomato plants. In the same pot. My garden is very small. |
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Posted: 01 June 2013 at 16:40 |
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We have been slack this year.I have only put in about 120 garlic plants so far
 got a heap more to put in.Need to plant snow peas,carrots onions(red and brown)and some beetroot |
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Posted: 15 June 2013 at 16:00 |
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The lettuce and purslane that I planted last weekend are sprouting already.
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Rod Franklin
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Posted: 15 June 2013 at 19:49 |
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I'm glad to read that someone is growing purslane. I think it's one of those unheard of and underated vegetables. Used to pick it from between the rows of the vegetable garden where it just grew wild on it's own. Most would have just stomped on them and pulled them up as weeds.
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Melissa Mead
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Posted: 16 June 2013 at 07:19 |
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My mom weeds hers out. It tastes like grass to her. To me, it's succulent and lemony. It's supposed to be really nutritious, too. Maybe it's one of those things like cilantro, that people taste differently.
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Posted: 19 June 2013 at 16:03 |
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I hope everyones gardens are coming together...
I am doing a very small garden this year (we almost didn't do one at all)...just a few tomatoes. Six at the community garden plot with one jalapeno and one serrano plant. Then two tomato plants in containers at home...also some herbs at home.  |
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Posted: 20 June 2013 at 03:14 |
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Tomorrow is garlic planting day for all south of the equator - just a head up.
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Posted: 20 June 2013 at 07:10 |
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Hmmmmmm? I would have guessed it was a hair late for that.
What is the typical length and depth of your winter, Anne? In the U.S. we plant garlic in the fall. For instance, I usually shoot for Thanksgiving weekend, and that's considered late by most growers I know. Of course, garlic is very forgiving, and, so long as the ground can be worked, you can plant it. |
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Posted: 21 June 2013 at 01:53 |
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We are sub tropical, traditional dates for Garlic in the North Island of NZ are: Plant on the shortest day, harvest on the longest.
My garden is in fact still in the final act of autumn 2012, even though it is now mid winter 2013 - I even have an outdoor tomato that has valiantly tried to fruit in June. (I think the polar blast (Antarctic) that's happening outside right now will have reminded it that it was a summer plant) That said, last year we had the hardest drought since the sixties last summer. This weekend I will blanket my 12m x 6m vege garden with 4" organic sawdust. I will lime it in places first - our soil is clay based. I use the square meter approach. So the winter brassicas remain the 'alive' part of the garden. In short - it never snows here. We do get devastatingly violent hail, and in el nina years we can get -2 -3C (in the early mornings only) for 6-8 weeks. We also get devastating salt spray. We are less than 200km from coast to coast
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