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Tatoosh
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Posted: 28 August 2012 at 00:15 |
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Hello Pitrow, how is beautiful Newberg? I had many Filipinos working where I did too and enjoyed their company. The short ribs sound kind of Korean to me but the lumpia are pure Filipino (well with some influence from the Chinese, of course) and my wife loves to make those and to innovate new ones, her recent lumpia consisted of crab and cream cheese and she often does mashed potato and cheese lumpia.
Later: I saw your blog about doing apple molasses. That looks really good! And the cinnamon rolls were nice too. My wife loves to make those. How much did they charge for the cured and smoked pork chops? I do those here, using 1 to 2 inch chops, cured for 2 day in a wet brine and then smoked for 2 or 3 hours with hickory. Wonderful to eat, but your molasses glaze sounds like a step up the ladder!
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Hoser
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Posted: 28 August 2012 at 02:51 |
Hello Tatoosh, and welcome to the forum! ![]() When I prepared the belly bacon above, I had one pork belly and split it into two pieces. I don't know exactly, but would estimate the weight of each piece as about 1.5-2 kilos. The weber kettle is a perfect place to smoke bacon...I would start it low and slow and bring it up gradually to that 150°. Good luck and happy smoking.
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Tatoosh
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Posted: 28 August 2012 at 02:59 |
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Yeah, that is my approach. I smoke at 150F to 175F (smoker temp) for 3 or more hours. Then if weather permits, I bring the bacon to 150F internal temperature by raising the smoker to 200F to 230F. Last time we made bacon it was in a typhoon. We had blankets hung to protect the Weber from the wind, but I never could get it over 160F smoking temp, so we finished the bacon in the kitchen oven after smoking.
Lots of great recipes here, so I really look forward to exploring the forum and sharing with my family!
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Hoser
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Posted: 28 August 2012 at 12:20 |
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Don't worry too much about getting the bacon to an IT of 160 or so...it's cured. It will be fine as long as you cook it before using even if it is cold smoked the whole time.
Here's a good link on bacon curing:
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Tatoosh
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Posted: 29 August 2012 at 04:07 |
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I only take it to the 150F range because I share it with folks that are over 60 years old (including myself) so I like to be on the safe side. Thanks for the link. I am looking it over closely.
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gonefishin
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Posted: 30 November 2012 at 15:29 |
Hi Hoser! I'm getting ready to start two whole bellys myself. My basic cure contains a lot less salts than yours does, and have had no problems with the ratio. basic bacon cure recipe 5.Any desired spices
Rinse, dry, set on racked sheet in fridge overnight before smoking
Here's a picture of what looks to be a single belly cut into thirds. The most I ever did at one time was six full bellys...that was too much to do at one time. Skinning and slicing that much was a pain! Dan |
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Hoser
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Posted: 30 November 2012 at 15:40 |
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Thanks for the suggestion Dan...I think old Rytek's recipe was a bit too heavy on the salt.
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PitFiend
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Posted: 21 March 2013 at 11:42 |
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Has anybody experimented at all with bourbon in the cure? I am attempting a 4lb slab, no rind with a basic maple syrup cure and just adding a shot or two of a decent enough bourbon. It's been in the cure a little over a week and I have been flipping it every day. Just trying to figure out what to expect.
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 21 March 2013 at 11:46 |
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I tried a Canadian Bacon once using a pork tenderloin that had "bourbon-flavour" in it. It came from the meat plant that way, so I am not sure if it was true bourbon or some sort of artificial "bourbon flavouring."
The flavour did add a little something - depth, character, call it what you will. Not sure how to describe it, but it was good!
Welcome to the FotW! hope to see you around ~
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HistoricFoodie
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Posted: 21 March 2013 at 12:17 |
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Very often when bourbon or other whiskey is added it contributes a sense of umami to the finish. You don't taste the booze, as such. But there's an underlying mellowness and all the other ingredients taste more like themselves.
It's simple enough to see how this works. Make your favorite barbecue sauce, adding bourbon (or, better yet, Southern Comfort) to one batch and not to the other. Taste them both, and you'll see the difference. |
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gonefishin
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Posted: 21 March 2013 at 12:50 |
Hello Pitfiend! Welcome to FOTW! I gotta say...that's one fine idea! Please post your results when the cure gets done, as I'll probably give this a try next time I make my bacon...and seeing as how the last batch is finished up...it should be within the next few weeks. I hope you don't mind me asking, but would you mind cutting off a small piece before you smoke it? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts of how the simple cure (with Bourbon addition) tasted. I think it may be helpful to get the flavor profile before smoke and after smoke. Can't wait to hear your thoughts! Dan |
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Posted: 22 March 2013 at 00:18 |
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I think Brook hit the nail on the head....it will come through in the finished product, but I would not worry about it being overpowering at all.
I use bourbon in my barbecue sauce, and have used it in many applications...it just seems to give a really nice depth of flavor. |
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Posted: 22 March 2013 at 16:24 |
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Bourbon sounds like it would work for me!
I use Ruhlmans recipe for Maple bacon, I also sub Apple Molasses and Honey for the Maple syrup - my favorite! |
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PitFiend
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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 14:39 |
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Oops, I forgot to check prior to smoking, but as historicfoodie said, it didn't really give the bourbon taste I kind of wanted but did seem to bring some of the maple to the forefront. Pretty tasty overall, but I was really after that hint of bourbon. It cured about 10 days.
Next up is a 5lb slab I just grabbed that I am going to try curing in coffee and see what happens there. I'll try to remember to try it before and after smoking. |
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TasunkaWitko
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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 14:43 |
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PitFiend, you sure do come up with some good ideas! Looking forward to seeing how it goes ~
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Posted: 10 April 2013 at 19:42 |
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Thanks for the update pitfriend. For the coffee, I wonder if adding instant coffee to the rub would offer more flavor than adding some made coffee.
Can't wait to hear the results! Actually, I need to make some more bacon, I'm all out...again! |
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PitFiend
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Posted: 11 April 2013 at 13:19 |
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I opted to get a nice dark espresso roast from a place I go to. I am a little hesitant to try an instant coffee since I don't really care for that flavor. Since I am going to be drinking the coffee too, I figured may as well get something I like. I used a pretty basic cure that I have done a couple times and just substituted a couple things.
5lb rind on slab 2oz of kosher salt 1/4 cup brown sugar About 1/4 cup of really strong brewed coffee Extra 1tbsp of grounds for good measure 2tsp of all purpose cure I am going to try to see if I can wait 2 weeks to let the flavor really get in there. I am a big fan of strong flavors, so hopefully this will work out to my liking. Some will be going in to a bacon jam recipe that is already accented with coffee, so it should work out nicely there even if the bacon on its own isn't where I want it to be. |
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tjkoko
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Posted: 30 May 2013 at 15:32 |
I cure and smoke bacon regularly and get my MAPLE SUGAR CURE at AlliedKenco.com. A two pound bag of cure will cure 100 pounds of belly. The typical pork belly down here weighs around 11 pounds give or take. Some weigh closer to 12 or 13 pounds. And each belly is cut into thirds to fit inside of my Weber Smokey Mountain Smoker. |
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Posted: 30 May 2013 at 16:58 |
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t -
that's great news for me, since i am always trying to find a way to maple cure meats; i think that the maple cured/maple smoked flavour is just about as good as it can get! ![]() i currently have two sections of pork loin curing; since there aren't too many options available to me, i'm using 3/4 cup of genuine maple syrup for each loin section - each section is just over 2 pounds. my curing agent is tenderquick, which i have found to work very well for my needs. i'll be smoking these in maple using my AMNPS. this is an experiment, because i'm not sure if the maple syrup will work. even if it will work, i may or may not have enough, i don't know - but i figure it will be a good learning experience, either way. they're due out of the cure this weekend, so we'll see ~ |
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Posted: 30 May 2013 at 17:30 |
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I am not a representative of AlliedKenco. But they sell everything needed for meat processing, everything ranging from spices, mixtures to equipment.
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